Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!hoptoad!ptsfa!pyramid!decwrl!ucbvax!rutgers!husc6!bbn!papaya.bbn.com!rsalz From: rsalz@papaya.bbn.com.UUCP Newsgroups: alt.hypertext Subject: Re: Hypertext Usenet Message-ID: <234@papaya.bbn.com> Date: Sun, 8-Nov-87 10:31:56 EST Article-I.D.: papaya.234 Posted: Sun Nov 8 10:31:56 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 9-Nov-87 06:35:22 EST References: <3296@hoptoad.uucp> <557@brandx.rutgers.edu> Reply-To: rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) Organization: BBN Laboratories, Cambridge MA Lines: 37 ] Each site archives all its messages on magtape, e.g. Then others could ] ask them for a copy of that magtape. "A catalog of sites that are keeping ] archives and what sites they are archiving then becomes our equivalent to ] the library Serials List and the whole system is our ``inter-library loan.''" Cute idea, but needs more infra-structure. I could see every junior hacker sending away to mimsy in order to get the complete words of "Chris Torek on BSD" -- completely overloading that site with hundreds of requests, each of which is "reasonable" in and of itself. As anyone who's done a non-commercial software distribution can tell you, this kind of thing rapidly becomes a big hassle. > ... sat down and designed a candidate database > setup a month ago, and it may be doable with a year or two of work. >Hmmm. I guess we would all be interested in hearing more about your >design. But, from what I have heard of the success of the arpa people >with their ``named'' distributed database, I would rather try and build a >central computer big enough to support everyone in the world connected >simultaneously instead. First things first, but easy before hard :-) Ahh, one big machine to serve the world? You mean like Multics, which was to serve the entire Boston/Cambridge community? The problem the nameserver folks (users and maintainers) are having is that the system is just not big/fast enough. Not many people think the basic concept is broken. Unless you complete control over growth (does anyone ever have complete control over growth), you had best lay your groundwork to allow distributed mechanisms otherwise your system is guaranteed to become insufficient at some point. But what about "better" than Usenet hypertext: Where's Ted Nelson? Where's the Brown IRIS group? Doesn't UMichigan have something in the fire? What about interactive videodisc? Comments? /r$ -- For comp.sources.unix stuff, mail to sources@uunet.uu.net.