Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!ukma!gatech!hubcap!ncrcae!ncr-sd!hp-sdd!hplabs!motsj1!mcdchg!clyde!spf From: spf@moss.ATT.COM Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: The Success of AI Message-ID: <16239@clyde.ATT.COM> Date: Thu, 5-Nov-87 14:31:24 EST Article-I.D.: clyde.16239 Posted: Thu Nov 5 14:31:24 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 8-Nov-87 14:53:49 EST References: <1922@gryphon.CTS.COM> <131@glenlivet.hci.hw.ac.uk> <137@glenlivet.hci.hw.ac.uk> <287@PT.CS.CMU.EDU> <16240@topaz.rutgers.edu> Sender: nuucp@clyde.ATT.COM Reply-To: spf@moss.UUCP (Steve Frysinger) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Whippany NJ Lines: 25 In article <16240@topaz.rutgers.edu> josh@topaz.rutgers.edu (J Storrs Hall) writes: }Actually, it is probably possible to build a system that is more }complex than any one person can really "understand". This seems to be }true of a lot of the systems (legal, economic, etc) at large in the }world today. The system is made up of the people each of whom }understands part of it. It is conjectured by Minsky that the mind is }a similar system. Thus it may be that AI is possible where psychology }is not (in the same sense that economics is impossible). Your point here makes a lot of sense, and the analogy to economics (as a complex human-made system that nobody understands) is excellent. To take it to its logical conclusion, then, we can decide that perhaps AI CAN model human intelligence, but we won't understand it when it does!! Actually, I find this the most appealing view of all that have appeared so far in this discussion. There are actually many other examples of human-inventions beyond our total comprehension (e.g. we're still learning some of the more subtle reasons why airplanes fly the way they do, even though that didn't slow down the Wright Bros. And much of software integration testing (yech, do people really DO that?) is involved with figuring out what a program we wrote DOES. Yeah, I like the flow of this... Steve