Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!iuvax!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!osiris.cso.uiuc.edu!goldfain From: goldfain@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Who owns the output of an AI? Message-ID: <8300013@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 18-Nov-87 04:55:00 EST Article-I.D.: osiris.8300013 Posted: Wed Nov 18 04:55:00 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Nov-87 15:22:38 EST References: <1778@svax.cs.cornell.edu> Lines: 43 Nf-ID: #R:svax.cs.cornell.edu:1778:osiris.cso.uiuc.edu:8300013:000:2693 Nf-From: osiris.cso.uiuc.edu!goldfain Nov 18 03:55:00 1987 Just to fan the flames, let me throw in 1 totally outlandish, 2 mildly outlandish answers and a 4th that is not so bad (but I'm not sure whether I buy the analogy.) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 1) Newsflash. Microsoft today filed lawsuit against 250,000 authors of various books and papers for violation of copyright. Said a Microsoft spokesman, "Yes, these people really wrote the manuscripts, but then they gave them, in very raw form, to our program which then took it upon itself to edit, layout, and publish them. Our program actually owns the copy rights to these items." When asked how his company managed to file a quarter of a million legal documents in one day, the spokesman said "No trouble, we just used Think Technology's 'legal councillor' program." A second later, the Microsoft representative ran from the room muttering "Oh no ..." +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 2) If the computer program is not intelligent enough to reply to the "raw" data with : "I don't know, nothing looks interesting here ..." then to phone its author and say "Hey Jaime, this formula makes a wonderful superconductor. Do you want it, or should I tell Tom? " then I doubt it has enough intelligence to "deserve" the credit itself. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 3) In today's environment the user can shut off the machine and go get the patent himself, claiming to have made the discovery without any computer assistance. (Those who believe "an unenforceable law should not be a law" may see some point in this.) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 4) The user can claim "I did not ask the machine to find me a good superconductor. All I asked it was whether this particular math problem had a solution. The analogy leads us to the conclusion that we should give credit to the author for a math theorem (and he probably already has that credit in the literature), credit to the program for applying the theorem to solve a particular math problem (usually quite technically difficult but quite uninteresting to humans) and to the user for having applied the solution of a math problem to discovery of a new superconductor. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Mark Goldfain arpa: goldfain@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu US Mail: Mark Goldfain (just a student in the) --> Department of Computer Science 1304 West Springfield Avenue Urbana, Illinois 61801