Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!labrea!jade!ucbvax!ORSTCS.CS.ORST.EDU!tgd From: tgd@ORSTCS.CS.ORST.EDU (Tom Dietterich) Newsgroups: comp.ai.digest Subject: Re: Gilding the Lemon (part 2) Message-ID: <839@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> Date: Sun, 1-Nov-87 18:45:25 EST Article-I.D.: orstcs.839 Posted: Sun Nov 1 18:45:25 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Nov-87 22:59:29 EST References: <12346288066.15.LAWS@KL.SRI.Com> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: Oregon State University - CS - Corvallis Oregon Lines: 20 Approved: ailist@kl.sri.com Just a couple more points on this subject. Ken Laws also says Progress also comes from applications -- very seldom from theory. My description of research stages shows that progress comes from different sources at different stages. Applications are primarily useful for identifying problems and understanding the important issues. It is particularly revealing that Ken is "highly suspicious of any youngster trying to solve all our problems [in computer vision] by ignoring the accumlated knowledge of the last twenty years." Evidentally, he feels that there is no accumulated knowledge in AI. If that is true, it is perhaps because researchers have not studied the exploratory forays of the past to isolate and consolidate the knowledge gained. --Tom Dietterich