Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!pyramid!prls!mips!hansen From: hansen@mips.UUCP (Craig Hansen) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Towards A Meaningful Performance Measure Message-ID: <866@mips.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Nov-87 18:29:12 EST Article-I.D.: mips.866 Posted: Mon Nov 2 18:29:12 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Nov-87 03:58:33 EST References: <861@winchester.UUCP> <2993@phri.UUCP> <864@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> <3806@sol.ARPA> Lines: 35 Keywords: benchmarks In article <3806@sol.ARPA>, crowl@cs.rochester.edu (Lawrence Crowl) writes: > The compiler and operating system also affect performance. To make the base > machine highly available, both should be common. I suggest Unix BSD 4.2 as > the base operating system and the portable C compiler as the base C language > compiler. BSD 4.3 has been out long enough to be "common," and has significant improvements in the performance of compiled Fortran code, and some (more modest) improvements in C code. VMS has better compilers, both C and Fortran, in terms of how the resulting code perform. The availability of a common machine is important, however. MIPS has both 4.3 and VMS 780's, but no longer keeps a 4.2 around. It's been obsoleted by 4.3. > Of course, 780's are becoming scarce. We may have to pick another machine just > to keep the base machine readily available. Suggestions? Digital Review uses the roughly equivalent MicroVax as a base machine in their comparisons. Ultimately, the Vax Relative Performance measure will never be much more precise than defining the inch as "Three round and dry barleycorns laid end to end." In fact, it's more like a cubit - it depends on what the leading machine of the day is (or was). The 780 VRP at best provides rough comparisons of machine performance, and by all rights ought to be a moving target. Since we (at MIPS) are clearly making an effort to be using the best compiler system we can muster when benchmarking our machines, we consider it only fair to use the best compiler system that can be made available for the VAX 780. We are trying to be conservative as possible in our performance claims in an environment where inflated and misleading claims are the order of the day, but at times it seems to work against us.... -- Craig Hansen Manager, Architecture Development MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. ...decwrl!mips!hansen