Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!decvax!necntc!husc6!bbn!rochester!crowl From: crowl@cs.rochester.edu (Lawrence Crowl) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Towards A Meaningful Performance Measure Message-ID: <3907@sol.ARPA> Date: Wed, 4-Nov-87 13:40:27 EST Article-I.D.: sol.3907 Posted: Wed Nov 4 13:40:27 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Nov-87 16:29:15 EST References: <861@winchester.UUCP> <2993@phri.UUCP> <864@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> <3806@sol.ARPA> <1714@pdn.UUCP> Reply-To: crowl@cs.rochester.edu (Lawrence Crowl) Organization: U of Rochester, CS Dept, Rochester, NY Lines: 25 Keywords: benchmarks In article <1714@pdn.UUCP> alan@pdn.UUCP (0000-Alan Lovejoy) writes: >I strongly vote against PCC as the compiler. It is known to vary considerably >in code-generation quality on different architectures. Not good. It's better >if people use the best compiler avaiable for the system, whatever that is. My intent was that the base architecture/operating system/compiler be constant. This means that some readily available compiler be part of the base system. I wanted to avoid cases where people benchmark relative to two different compilers. I want people to use the compiler appropriate to their machine. >As for operating system, I suggest an average based on standalone, UNIX V and >the most widely used OS on that system, if that is not UNIX V. UNIX V is >clearly headed for standard status. Leave UNIX out if it's not available. I >also strongly urge against UNIX utilities as benchmarks: not everyone uses or >can use UNIX (a sacrilege, I know). I do not understand your reasoning for averaging UNIX and something else. Why not just provide two number, one for each operating system on that machine. I suspect that the OS will have little effect on CPU bound jobs (relative to the compiler anyway). The reason for choosing UNIX utilities is that those people interested in a UNIX box have more realistic measures of performance. -- Lawrence Crowl 716-275-9499 University of Rochester crowl@cs.rochester.edu Computer Science Department ...!{allegra,decvax,rutgers}!rochester!crowl Rochester, New York, 14627