Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!pyramid!prls!mips!mash From: mash@mips.UUCP (John Mashey) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Towards A Meaningful Performance Measure Message-ID: <884@winchester.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Nov-87 16:04:29 EST Article-I.D.: winchest.884 Posted: Thu Nov 5 16:04:29 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 8-Nov-87 04:22:54 EST References: <861@winchester.UUCP> <2993@phri.UUCP> <864@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> <3907@sol.ARPA> <881@mips.UUCP> <3113@husc6.UUCP> Reply-To: mash@winchester.UUCP (John Mashey) Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 19 Keywords: benchmarks In article <3113@husc6.UUCP> reiter@harvard.UUCP (Ehud Reiter) writes: >So, I think that attempts to give good definitions for "MIPS" will remain >fairly academic exercises, of little relevance to the "real world" of computing. Unfortunately, one can do the whole song-and-dance about a) No one number is enough b) Benchmark the real applications c) Individual machines vary a lot and somebody who hearsthat, and intellectually accepts that, will STILL then ask you: "But how many mips is it?" In particular, the trade press ends up doing this by default, as they end up showing mips-ratings, even in the same issues that contain good explanations of why this is only a gross approximation. Telling an accurate story takes a tremendous amount of work, and is nontrivial to understand; that's why people want mips-ratings. sigh. -- -john mashey DISCLAIMER: UUCP: {ames,decwrl,prls,pyramid}!mips!mash OR mash@mips.com DDD: 408-991-0253 or 408-720-1700, x253 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086