Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!amdcad!ames!ll-xn!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!dickey From: dickey@ssc-vax.UUCP (Frederick J Dickey) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: Computer Science: where it belongs Message-ID: <1500@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 4-Nov-87 11:49:02 EST Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.1500 Posted: Wed Nov 4 11:49:02 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Nov-87 19:24:45 EST References: <469@ndsuvax.UUCP> <618@hu-cap.UUCP> Organization: Boeing Aerospace Corp., Seattle WA Lines: 17 Summary: put it in engineering college > in article <469@ndsuvax.UUCP>, ncmagel@ndsuvax.UUCP (ken magel) says: >> Why not view computer science as a performing art such as painting or music >> which has two main parts: performance ( e.g., software engineering), and >> theory ( study of the phenomena underlying software engineering - why they >> work and how they can be improved). Perhaps Computer Science programs should >> be placed within Collges of Art. There is a serious problem with this proposal. There exist engineering firms that in the past had certain curious hiring practices (and may still have them). If a recent CS grad (from a school where the CS department is in the Engineering College) applied for a job, the firm would say, "Hey! This guy is cool, he's an engineer, let's hire him as a well-paid engineer." If a grad from a school where the CS department is in the arts college applied for a job, the firm would say, "Hey! This guy is not cool, he's not an engineer, let's hire him as a poorly-paid technical aide." This is irrespective of the merits of either the grad or the school. This is not a fairy tale, this is how it really happens.