Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!uw-june!pattis From: pattis@uw-june.UUCP (Richard Pattis) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: What is Computer Science? Message-ID: <3597@uw-june.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Nov-87 15:20:55 EST Article-I.D.: uw-june.3597 Posted: Thu Nov 12 15:20:55 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Nov-87 19:13:10 EST References: <933@ssc-bee.ssc-vax.UUCP> <719@devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV> Organization: U of Washington, CSCI, Seattle Lines: 19 Summary: The termp "programmer" is not pejorative No flames here, but I am happy to be called a programmer; I teach an introductory course in programming, not computer science - in much the same way that others at my university teach an introductory course in calculus, not mathematics. I believe the analogy apt. One of my favorite pieces of writing comes from John Gardner: " An excellent plumber in infintely more admirable than an incompetent philosopher. The society that scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity, and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because it is an exalted activity, will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water." Now, I understand that when one says computer scientist, the world thinks programmer; and we all know that it's not true. But this is common: a friend of mine reminds me that whenever he labels himself a mathematician, the next comment from the other person is, "I was always bad at long division." I guess the approprate response to a computer scientist is, "I was always bad at punctuation with semicolons.