Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!pyramid!prls!philabs!rob From: rob@philabs.Philips.Com (Rob Robertson) Newsgroups: comp.emacs Subject: Re: The Selling of GNU Emacs Message-ID: <1973@briar.Philips.Com> Date: Fri, 13-Nov-87 13:11:47 EST Article-I.D.: briar.1973 Posted: Fri Nov 13 13:11:47 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Nov-87 18:22:05 EST References: <116@nexus.UUCP> <1947@briar.Philips.Com> <530@hqda-ai.UUCP> <10584@duke.cs.duke.edu> Reply-To: rob@briar.philips.com (Rob Robertson) Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY Lines: 48 >THIS IS NOT A JOKE!!! This is bloody well near to criminal libel, >because copyright violation IS a crime, and there is no truth to the >rumor that they were somehow trying to make illicit profits on GNU Emacs >and KCL. The ad said: BEGIN QUOTE Kyoto Common Lisp and GNU Emacs have been merged into on high performance LISP and C programming tool. THINK IN LISP BUILD IN EMACS RUN IN C Including ALL SOURCE CODE send $250 free shipping on all prepaid orders. END QUOTE gee, from their ad i can easily tell they aren't really selling GNUemacs or kyoto common lisp. they are just selling their modifications, right? bullshit. they hacked wrote some elisp glue, and profiled KCL and decided to sell KCL and GNUemacs. they mention nothing about modifications and nothing about speed increases. >WORSE EVEN THAN that (if it is possible) is the fact that this can't be >very encouraging to others who might want to co-operate with Stallman's >free software ideas. Why should ANYONE BOTHER? Those of you who have >said things like "I hope FSF burns them" should think very carefully on >this. gee, when do semi-ligit software houses "co-operate" with Stallman's free software ideas? by the way, is ACW still selling their "yacc" for pc's? sort of reminds me of btg and daystrom. rob -- william robertson rob@philabs.philiroblem