Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!super.upenn.edu!eecae!upba!qetzal!rcw From: rcw@qetzal.UUCP (Robert C. White) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Ms C 5.0 Message-ID: <397@qetzal.UUCP> Date: Tue, 10-Nov-87 02:54:06 EST Article-I.D.: qetzal.397 Posted: Tue Nov 10 02:54:06 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 12-Nov-87 21:08:29 EST References: <3028@rosevax.Rosemount.COM> <148@fxgrp.UUCP> Organization: Mentor Software, Inc., Thornton, CO. Lines: 33 Keywords: Microsoft C Summary: And you don't have to be a psychic to guess this one In article <148@fxgrp.UUCP>, ljz@fxgrp.UUCP (Lloyd Zusman) writes: ------------ | Microsoft does have a fairly extensive Customer Support department, | but if you're an advanced user and are looking for help beyond that | needed by a novice user, you are likely to come up against a brick | wall. ------------ Yeah. This is typical of software companies, and is a fairly brain damaged policy if you ask me. I think you should treat everyone reasonably. You never know who you are dealing with, and poor customer relations will always, repeat always run a business into the ground. ------------ | I am a software consultant and I advise my clients not to buy Microsoft | products. I'm proud to say that I cost Microsoft at least 150 sales | at a company at which I was consulting last year. ----------- Yep. And I won't buy them either for the same reasons you cite. Now I'm not clairvoyant, but I'd guess 1) Most of the enthusiastic key people have by now left Microsoft and 2) They are getting greedy. Expect a Waterloo with OS/2. (BTW, I heard the latest version of the MS Fortran compiler had an inordinate number of bugs. Can anyone substantiate this?) Let's see, that'd be 300 units between you and me. 300 * 100 = $30,000 that Microsoft didn't see last year just because of you and me. Are you listening, Mr. Gates? Email to unix-at-request@uwspan with questions about the newsgroup unix-at, otherwise mail to unix-at@uwspan with a Subject containing one of: 386 286 Bug Source Merge or "Send Buglist" (Bangpath: rutgers!uwvax!uwspan!unix-at & rutgers!uwvax!uwspan!unix-at-request)