Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!amdcad!ames!ll-xn!mit-eddie!bloom-beacon!gatech!udel!princeton!siemens!steve From: steve@siemens.UUCP (Steve Clark) Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Re: A Decent Environment. Where is it? (some flame, some advice) Message-ID: <291@siemens.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Nov-87 10:01:40 EST Article-I.D.: siemens.291 Posted: Thu Nov 5 10:01:40 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 8-Nov-87 10:24:55 EST References: <21493@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <2630001@hpfcmp.HP.COM> Reply-To: steve@siemens.UUCP (Steve Clark) Organization: Siemens RTL, Princeton, NJ Lines: 16 Summary: try Xerox lisp As long as everyone is plugging their favorite Lisp environment, I have to throw in my 2 cents. When I read the original message, I honestly thought the guy was going to say he had come from the Xerox Interlisp-D environment. The things he expected, which weren't there, are what I am used to in the Interlisp-D environment (with the exception of X, whose implementation in Interlisp is still in its infancy). Now for the good news: Not only has Xerox (finally) come through with Common Lisp on their workstations (although CL has lots of disadvantages (and a few advantages) over Interlisp-D), but the latest news is that Xerox will stop making their own hardware in the next few years, and move all their great stuff onto SUN-4's. I wouldn't expect to see anything for at least a year, and by the time they are ready they will doubtless have gotten all the great things in Interlisp-D to run in Common Lisp.