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From: dzzr@beta.UUCP (Douglas J Roberts)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Subject: Re: A Decent Environment. Where is it? (some flame, some advice)
Message-ID: <12076@beta.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 8-Nov-87 23:32:45 EST
Article-I.D.: beta.12076
Posted: Sun Nov  8 23:32:45 1987
Date-Received: Tue, 10-Nov-87 06:47:38 EST
References: <21493@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <2630001@hpfcmp.HP.COM> <177@utah-orion.UUCP>
Organization: Los Alamos Natl Lab, Los Alamos, N.M.
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Summary: Symbolics, tools, flame (low-burn)

In article <177@utah-orion.UUCP>, shebs@utah-orion.UUCP (Stanley T. Shebs) writes:
> In article <2630001@hpfcmp.HP.COM> chan@hpfcmp.HP.COM (Chan Benson) writes:
> 

. . . SOME STUFF DELETED . . . 

> While I'm here, I'd like to make a plea for more flexible Lisp programming
> environments.  People coming out of Interlisp/Symbolics traditions are very
> big on integration, but have no concept of tools.  

HA! The 15 or so of us in my group who have experimented with Knowledge
Engineering Environment (KEE) and LISP running on a SUN would *swear*
that UNIX folks had never heard of software development tools!

However, we have been promised that this will change when SUN releases
their Symbolic Programming Environment (SPE). We are told that it will
provide a usable window debugger, multiple LISP listeners, and a slew of
other goodies that may compare favoribly with the rich development
environment provided by a Symbolics.

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			Doug Roberts
			dzzr@lanl.gov
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