Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!hao!oddjob!mimsy!umd5!umbc3!alex From: alex@umbc3.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: A Decent Environment. Where is it? (some flame, some advice) Message-ID: <568@umbc3.UMD.EDU> Date: Thu, 12-Nov-87 04:22:33 EST Article-I.D.: umbc3.568 Posted: Thu Nov 12 04:22:33 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Nov-87 12:09:52 EST References: <21493@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <2630001@hpfcmp.HP.COM> <177@utah-orion.UUCP> <12076@beta.UUCP> <178@utah-orion.UUCP> Reply-To: alex@umbc3.UMD.EDU (Alex S. Crain) Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 28 There has been much heated discussion about what is wrong with various systems, but mostly vaguaritys & generalizations...SO: I am running KCL on an AT&T 3b1, I also have GNU Emacs. As an extension to a school project, I would like to design a working environment for lisp stuff. I plan to write all the code (unless someone else is interested :-)) and have an abundance of tools, graphics, windows, mouse, menus, editors, lisp etc. So my question: What makes a good lisp environment? do i need/want full unix shell stuff inside of lisp? I can link all of the syscalls into lisp & dynamicly load a shell, but the command syntax seems a bit odd. also, while i can get lisp to fork, forking 2meg of lisp for ls is a bit extranious. I am considering satalite processes, like a shell & editor, & communicatiion through message packes or pipes, but... SO, In 25 words or less, What do you want?? whate shal i go? what shal i do? all suggestions are welcome! either post or email & i will summerize. :alex. alex@umbc3.umd.edu .