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From: kenw@noah.arc.CDN (Ken Wallewein)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Posting Binaries
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Date: Thu, 19-Nov-87 13:01:39 EST
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Posted: Thu Nov 19 13:01:39 1987
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>>I have been asked to post the binary for interrupt driven terminal program fo
r
>>CP/M Kaypros.  What is the policy concerning such postings in this newsgroup?
>>
>>                                Jeff Wieland
>>                                abp@j.cc.purdue.edu

>Binaries or source code should not be posted to Info-Cpm.  Arpa/Milnet
>readers should instead send a message to Info-Cpm-Request@SIMTEL20.ARPA
>asking for instructions on how to use FTP to submit files to the
>SIMTEL20 archives.
>
>--Keith


** FLAME ON!!! ***

  This is a most frustrating, Arpanet-chauvinistic attitude! Only a fraction
of the people who recieve this newsgroup have the capability of performing FTP
access to the massive SIMTEL20 archives. This summer, SIMTEL20 shut down their
mail server, so that's out too... but I guess those on Arpanet don't care
about that. If they want to use SIMTEL20, fine, but DON'T go telling the rest 
of the group not to post binaries! Come ON!!!

** FLAME OFF **.

  I'm sure Keith didn't think his answer through before replying, or perhaps
it was a stock answer formulated back when things were different, or
something. He's been too generous with us, myself included, in the past. 

  However, the point needs making. I can neither submit not retrieve files 
from SIMTEL20. This is not an idle complaint - I would do both if I could.

  There _is_ a mail server on the network: listserv@rpicicge.bitnet (the
contact appears to be "John S. Fisher" <FISHER@RPICICGE.bitnet>). It has taken
over a large chunk of SIMTEL20's CPM mail service, for those who have access
to BITNET. Of course, it's not quite current and has limited "bandwidth", but
deserves a lot of support. I believe it's download-only at the moment. 

  I suggest that binary postings to the net use either HEX or UUENCODE format. 
There are public domain programs available to work with both; HEX is easier to 
get the software for, but I understand that UUENCODE does some compression.

/kenw
Ken Wallewein                                                    A L B E R T A
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kenw@noah.arc.cdn                                                C O U N C I L