Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!elroy!cit-vax!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!CICGE.RPI.EDU!FISHER From: FISHER@CICGE.RPI.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: Posting Binaries Message-ID: <8711202140.AA04789@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 20-Nov-87 08:17:59 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8711202140.AA04789 Posted: Fri Nov 20 08:17:59 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Nov-87 13:13:15 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 27 I think it is really unfair to flame at Simtel20 and/or the internet at large just because they have something and "you cannot get it". The fact is that just about everything in the Simtel20 archives (at least for CP/M) is available through alternate means. There are the public BBS's and the information network services and the marketeers of public domain software collections. Granted, those aren't quite free, but the cost is actually modest. Mail over the networks isn't quite free, either, by the way. You may not see any direct chargeback for mail sent and received, but some of us do. And we all pay in some sense for any unnecessary load placed on the networks. Please do not construe my comments as "dog-in-the-manger" (if that is the right analogy) just because I now have FTP access to Simtel20 and you don't. I joined this group before I had FTP and before Simtel20 started the mail-based archive service. I did not think that I had any "inherient right" to be able to access the Simtel20 archives then, nor when the mail service was cancelled, nor now. By the way, the file server at RPICICGE.Bitnet can also be addressed via CICGE.RPI.EDU on the internet. Eventhough targeted to service the Bitnet Info-CPM people, mail requests from other networks are supported as long as the server can figure out how to send back a reply. It won't work for everyone, but there are at least some requests it has processed for people in UUCP-land and on mail-only Arpanet sites.