Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!A.ISI.EDU!PADLIPSKY From: PADLIPSKY@A.ISI.EDU (Michael Padlipsky) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: ..."layering violations" Message-ID: <12348462737.37.PADLIPSKY@A.ISI.EDU> Date: Fri, 6-Nov-87 10:31:44 EST Article-I.D.: A.12348462737.37.PADLIPSKY Posted: Fri Nov 6 10:31:44 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Nov-87 05:46:14 EST References: <8711030915.AA00844@gumby.wisc.edu> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 19 Although you probably make a valuable distinction (given confirmation that X.25 actually does have a "Host Down" return--I remember something like Virtual Circuit Failure, or the like, myself), I was not, of course, talking about X.25 explicitly. (Nor was I talking about daemons explicitly.) Always delighted to learn of still another X.25 faux pas, though. (I'd confirm the Host Down question myself, but I don't have an X.25 spec handy, even though I acknowdlege that it's a seminal fascicle.) Just so the principle doesn't get lost in the worrying over the example, let me rephrase: Just as there's no need to close connections before their time, there's no need to keep them open beyond their time. Good judgment is expected to be applied to the issue of what time it is in the life of given connections in given contexts. OK? cheers, map P.S. Maybe it's a quibble, but wouldn't X.25 call it DTE Down, anyway? (Or is it DCE? Well, DxE, at least.) -------