Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!elroy!cit-vax!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!XX.LCS.MIT.EDU!radia From: radia@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU (Radia Perlman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Idle chatter about reference models Message-ID: <12352127564.23.RADIA@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU> Date: Fri, 20-Nov-87 10:03:14 EST Article-I.D.: XX.12352127564.23.RADIA Posted: Fri Nov 20 10:03:14 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Nov-87 16:12:43 EST References: <[A.ISI.EDU]19-Nov-87.10:28:05.CERF> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 17 The Network Layer in ISO already has lots of sublayers, with catchy names like "Subnetwork Independent Convergence Protocol". With hierarchical routing, there's really a Network Layer sublayer dealing with each level of hierarchy. When you (according to ARPA terminology, I think) interconnect networks into an internetwork, I'd say you're just forming another layer of hierarchy on your network. That extra layer does involve adding a protocol layer onto what used to be your Network Layer. But it certainly doesn't go into the Transport Layer. It just makes your Network Layer fatter (makes a Network Layer that used to have k sublayers now have k+1 sublayers.) In general I agree that trying to take the ISO Reference Model too seriously leads to nonproductive metaphysical discussions, but I don't think hierarchical routing at the ISO Network layer breaks the model. Radia -------