Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!ARAMIS.RUTGERS.EDU!hedrick From: hedrick@ARAMIS.RUTGERS.EDU (Charles Hedrick) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: help Message-ID: <8711220500.AA10549@aramis.rutgers.edu> Date: Sun, 22-Nov-87 00:00:28 EST Article-I.D.: aramis.8711220500.AA10549 Posted: Sun Nov 22 00:00:28 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Nov-87 04:42:01 EST References: <8711210325.AA28823@topaz.rutgers.edu> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 31 The author describes a configuration having a mix of vendors, administrators, and network technologies, and asks how to make a level-2 bridge work within it. My recommendation would be: 1) not to do it. I think it is a big mistake to let level 2 technology cross administrative boundaries. Personally I prefer level 3 technology everywhere, but there are good arguments on both sides. But I see nothing in favor of leve 2 technology connecting networks where different people are going to be responsible for diagnosing problems. Since this issue has come up so many times, I now have a canned response which I will mail to the original poster under separate cover (to avoid boring the rest of you). We believe that the next generation of gateways (based on 68020 processors instead of 68000), which should be available in December or January from at least cisco and Proteon, will have throughput close to that of a bridge. The primary performance limitation will then be on long back-to-back strings of packets. That will be resolved by new Ethernet controllers, which should also be available shortly. Even in the current generation, throughput with gateways is enough for most networks. From your description, I believe you would see no performance problems from using routers instead of bridges. 2) if you must do it, I would set the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 on those machines were you can have multiple subnets on one interface. All BSD-based systems allow this, and I think many others as well. On a BSD system, you say route add x.y.z.0 youraddress 0 for each subnet that you want to add as being local. For systems where this is not possible, I would set the subnet mask to 255.255.0.0. If you have any such systems, then any actual level 3 gateways that may be present in your configuration (Apollo?) will have to be able to do proxy ARP.