Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!violet.berkeley.edu!gts From: gts@violet.berkeley.edu (Greg Small) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: Re: standard interface Message-ID: <6026@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sat, 21-Nov-87 23:34:06 EST Article-I.D.: jade.6026 Posted: Sat Nov 21 23:34:06 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Nov-87 06:27:39 EST Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: gts@violet.berkeley.edu (Greg Small) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 24 = From: karn@faline.bellcore.com (Phil R. Karn) = Date: 21 Nov 87 02:39:19 GMT = Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc = = I see little hope of establishing a standard application/transport = interface on the PC until we can trash MS-DOS in favor of a "grownup" = operating system. I'm not willing to sacrifice concurrent applications. Actually, multiple network applications can easily run on Netbios or TCP-IP because they can be called by a resident network driver when activity occurs. I have not been following this discussion closely but I surmise that this is what "up call" means (Netbios calles them "post interrupts"). Actually "grown up" operating systems are too bulky and inefficient for the many, many applications that are ideal for a PC class workstation. Just because DOS/BIOS is a small, highly accessable operating system doesn't mean that is cannot participate in concurrent network applications. Gregory T Small (415)642-5979 Personal Computer Networking & Communications gts@jade.Berkeley.EDU Data Communications and Networking Group ucbvax!jade!gts Computer Facilities and Communications SPGGTS@UCBCMSA.BITNET 216 Evans Hall CFC University of California, Berkeley, Ca 94720