Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!decvax!ucbvax!ucsfcgl!cca.ucsf.edu!ccb.ucsf.edu!dick From: dick@ccb.ucsf.edu (Dick Karpinski) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Usenet in Hypertext form Message-ID: <1058@ucsfcca.ucsf.edu> Date: Mon, 2-Nov-87 13:49:51 EST Article-I.D.: ucsfcca.1058 Posted: Mon Nov 2 13:49:51 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Nov-87 02:52:23 EST References: <8710290154.AA09880@agent99.wedge.com> <21526@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: root@cca.ucsf.edu Reply-To: dick@ucsfccb.UUCP (Dick Karpinski) Organization: UCSF Computer Center Lines: 39 Summary: Multi-function cooperative development opportunities. In article <21526@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu.UUCP (David Phillip Oster) writes: >... any document can be annottated by anyone at anytime. >... choose to turn off any subset >... editted by editors they trust, >... each document has fast links to every document it references >and each document that references it, >flaky theories get their rebuttals attached strongly and quickly. > >How can we evolve usenet news into such a system? Note that such a system has many useful purposes: a. readers are active participants b. kudoes and flames accumulate c. specific meanings of words and phrases emerge d. each reader is a moderator available to future readers e. the documents and system can evolve gradually f. multi dimensional searching facilities develop naturally g. authors can retract (but not erase) their former work h. optical disks will have something to store etc. To answer the question: only slowly and with cooperation on many fronts by many participants. Ted Nelson & his colleague could assist with their hypertext system or its ideas. The fundamental truth is that each word will have many more readers than writers. Thus we should attend to ease of reading above all. The first useful thing I see to do is to make a version of a popular news reading program which can follow references forward and back. The first major problem is how to expire unwanted bulk text; LRU anyone? Dick Dick Karpinski Manager of Minicomputer Services, UCSF Computer Center UUCP: ...!ucbvax!ucsfcgl!cca.ucsf!dick (415) 476-4529 (11-7) BITNET: dick@ucsfcca or dick@ucsfvm Compuserve: 70215,1277 USPS: U-76 UCSF, San Francisco, CA 94143-0704 Telemail: RKarpinski Domain: dick@cca.ucsf.edu Home (415) 658-6803 Ans 658-3797