Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!mcnc!ece-csc!ncrcae!ncr-sd!hp-sdd!hplabs!ucbvax!hoptoad.UUCP!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.UUCP.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: 500MB/sec is only local, I think... Message-ID: <8711201132.AA03014@hop.toad.com> Date: Fri, 20-Nov-87 06:32:58 EST Article-I.D.: hop.8711201132.AA03014 Posted: Fri Nov 20 06:32:58 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Nov-87 10:03:19 EST References: <19211@yale-celray.yale.UUCP> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 32 > ...Bell today has > the capability to deliver optical fiber to every house in America, with > a bandwidth of 500 gigabits per second. I was wrong. The figure is > actually half a gigabit per second. (500 megabits/sec) I was only off > by a factor of 1000. This figure is given on page 68 of Brand's book. I doubt that Bell intends to provide switched 500MB/sec cross-country bandwidth; you and everybody else can probably get 500MB/sec through your local central office, perhaps 50MB/sec through your local city, and maybe 5MB/sec cross-country. (Though you could carry on more than one conversation at the lower rates.) If it takes a whole fiber to carry 500MB/sec, and ten thousand people want to talk at that rate from California to New York, they'd have to run 10,000 fibers each 3000 miles long. More likely they run 100 fibers and give you a fraction of the bandwidth. Also note that equipment that runs at 500MHz will not be cheap enough to put into every home, or every phone, "today". Even the lowly 100MHz video in Sun-3's gets its final shifting done in ECL chips, because the TTL/MOS technologies that are easy to build gate arrays & VLSI with don't run quickly enough. (This could've changed somewhat in the last 2 years.) Has anybody designed a "modular telephone jack" for optical fiber? Note that it has to provide a "T" connection, not just an end. Probably it would be more like a contention based bus for around-the-house use, with a full speed gateway at the telco service point. But today's fastest existing and contemplated LANs (FDDI, Hyperchannel, etc) run ~100MBit/sec, and get nowhere near that thruput, due to processing bottlenecks in host interfaces and gateways. Most main memory subsystems can't handle 100MBits/sec -- Ethernet at 10MBits/sec gives them trouble! John