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From: wtm@bunker.UUCP (Bill McGarry)
Newsgroups: comp.sources.bugs,news.software.b
Subject: Re: Finally at rn patchlevel 40 and having problems
Message-ID: <3066@bunker.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 16-Nov-87 22:01:31 EST
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Posted: Mon Nov 16 22:01:31 1987
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Organization: Bunker Ramo, an Olivetti Company, Shelton, CT
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Keywords: rn bugs tty
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In article <795@tellab5.UUCP> dpb@tellab5.UUCP (Darryl Baker) writes:
>
>	I have in the last couple of weeks install news 2.11 patchlevel
>	11 and rn 4.3 patchlevel 40 and funny things are happening.
>	Sometimes when people do a save and name the file to save to
>	everything looks like it went fine but when they look for the
>	file it is not there. I'm having the problem that sometimes
>	when I do a r,R,f, or F I get the leaving cbreak mode and the
>	other stuff I'm supposed to get from rn but nothing from Rnmail
>	or Pnews just the reentering cbreak message. Also if I do a
>	shell escape and this problem is happening I can run binaries
>	but not shell scripts like Pnews or Rnmail.
>

The shell uses file descriptors 10 and 11 (at least in 4.3 BSD) to 
save standard in and standard out.  If those file descriptors are already
being used, then the shell will just exit without any error messages
whatsoever.  (Why the shell doesn't just use whate