Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!pyramid!uccba!hal!ncoast!allbery From: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon S. Allbery) Newsgroups: comp.sources.d Subject: comp.sources.misc Administrivia: Welcome! Message-ID: <5003@ncoast.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Nov-87 22:07:41 EST Article-I.D.: ncoast.5003 Posted: Mon Nov 2 22:07:41 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Nov-87 09:14:57 EST Sender: allbery@ncoast.UUCP Organization: Cleveland Public Access UN*X, Cleveland, Oh Lines: 102 Approved: allbery@ncoast.UUCP This is the monthly Info posting for comp.sources.misc. Hopefully, any questions you have will be answered here; if they are not, send mail to me (allbery@ncoast.UUCP), the moderator. For the time being, please imagine that you are in comp.sources.misc. I do not post Administrivia directly to comp.sources.misc so that those who archive the newsgroup can do so without collecting non-source. Starting this month, the Index has been separated from the Info posting, and is being posted as a separate message. You can skip these if you wish by placing the following line in your KILL file: /comp\.sources\.misc administrivia: index/j > Introduction < This newsgroup is not for large programs which belong in other sources groups; it is for sources which do not fit elsewhere (for example, MS-DOS and VMS non-game sources) and for the small stuff -- for example, your favorite shell script to set your prompt or etc. -- the little stuff that just doesn't warrant submission to comp.sources.unix (formerly mod.sources), where it'd look a bit silly next to the latest version of Xterm.... As a result, the group will be run in an informal fashion. In general, *anything* will be accepted, but discussion will be routed to comp.sources.d rather than cluttering this newsgroup. This newsgroup isn't expected to be a high-volume one, since the "big" stuff should be sent elsewhere. However, it is to be hoped that people still have the desire to post their favorite prompt generators, integer square root algorithms, etc. (If the last days of net.sources are any indication, they do.) > Why moderated? < The moderated comp.sources.misc replaced the unmoderated net.sources in May 1987. This was done by the Usenet backbone in response to the observed fact that net.sources was largely NON-sources by number of articles. Mail I have received indicates that the majority of people are willing to trade the small delays (mainly caused by network delays in mail; I send stuff out as fast as I get it) for having a source group that isn't full of noise. As stated above, the only reason a submission will be rejected is if it is a non-source. I, as the moderator, am striving to get things out as quickly as possible while not posting non-sources; testing is not done. If it's something that's worth testing, it probably belongs in comp.sources.unix instead. (Send submissions to rs@uunet.UU.NET in that case.) > What sources are posted here? < I will post directly any sources: little stuff like "my favorite dice-roll program" or etc., non-Unix(R) sources, as well as the standard stuff. [Disclaimer: Unix is a registered trademark of AT&T.] In particular, I have made arrangements to handle VMS sources, and I have a program to create VMS DCL "shar" files. > Archiving < Alas, ncoast is cramped for space, so I cannot do archiving. I do, however, add archive headers to posted submissions, suitable for manual or automatic archiving and archive retrieval. Each Info posting will contain a list of the articles posted within the past month, also. I am making arrangements to use my personal machine as an archive server. I will post the details of this as soon as it is set up. Availability depends on available space on my machine and the amount of traffic that ncoast and its net neighbors are willing to put up with. The format of the archive header is: X-Archive: comp.sources.misc/yymm/[package/]seq where "yymm" is the year and month the article was posted, and "seq" is a sequence number which is unique within a month. Multi-part postings are grouped separately in "packages", so they can be referred to as a group; each package has its own sequence counter. Rick Perry (perry@vu-vlsi.UUCP, perry@vuvaxcom.BITNET) is archiving all of comp.sources.misc and is willing to distribute sources via UUCP or BITNET mail, or via a direct UUCP connection. He is also willing to make tar or cpio tapes. Contact perry@vu-vlsi.UUCP for more information. Jason at Arete Systems (sun!aeras!jason) is archiving comp.sources.misc, as well as the .games and .unix groups. Send mail to sun!aeras!jason or sun!aeras!nyles for more information. Mike Squires ({ncoast!peng,pitt}!sir-alan!mikes) is archiving both the .misc and .unix groups. Access is via anonymous UUCP, phone number +01 814 333 6728; the login is "pdsrc" and there is no password. An index of archived postings is available in the file /usr/spool/pdsrc/all.subjects. Contact Mike at {ncoast!peng,pitt}!sir-alan!mikes for more information. Rob Marchand is also archiving comp.sources.misc; he will mail sources out, or (last resort) provide UUCP access. He is also archiving sources which appear in comp.os.vms, making him the only "official" VMS archive site. Contact rob@array.UUCP ({utzoo,watmath}!lsuc!array!rob). I am still looking for other sites to archive this newsgroup. In particular, sites with FTP access are badly needed. Any interested system administrators should send me mail. ++Brandon, your friendly neighborhood comp.sources.misc moderator.