Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!ames!oliveb!amiga!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Publicity etc Message-ID: <2760@cbmvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 13-Nov-87 15:22:31 EST Article-I.D.: cbmvax.2760 Posted: Fri Nov 13 15:22:31 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Nov-87 11:42:36 EST References: <5886@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 48 in article <5886@jade.BERKELEY.EDU>, mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (My watch has windows) Meyer) says: > > Damn straight. I can get a Mac II for $2077. Need to buy a keyboard > for an extra $137. But that comes with hypercard and a SCSI > controller. Ahhhh, so! So Mike, you're still in school? No wonder you've been flaming so heavily! Now I understand, and I'm sorry for flaming back. No reason to jar you into reality so quickly. Soon enough, you'll finish up there. And you can then stay there, be a Prof, and live in La-La Land for the rest of your life. Now, Profs DO get to make neat thing, and probably invent more new stuff than anyone this side of Bell Labs. But they also only need to invent it, they rarely need to make it pay the bills. And when it does pay the bills, they typically jump ship and form a startup company and get rich. But most folks go on to boring jobs at IBM, GM, and GE. A few of us actually get to do some of the things we dreamed about in school, but without an understanding of the commercial realities of the situation (eg, if this doesn't sell, there may not be a REAL-COOL-COMPANY for me to work for next year), you're not going to make it. For instance, try writing all your own software when you have to also spend 10-15 hours a day at real work. I've tried, and I KNOW how to build a better Emacs (better than MG or Gosling's or whatever) and better spreadsheet and a better video display board. So do lots of people. But I've got negative free time already, and I only sleep 4-5 hours a night, on good nights. That's why 99% of us need the commercial sector; in the hopes that one of those who knows will be able to make something almost as good that I can buy rather than spend a year of time I don't have and make it myself. I've never liked reality all that much, but I haven't found a better solution. > Vaxstations are to expensive. But a Sun 3/50 is $3500, plus $1000 for > or so for a disk (from someone other than Sun, of course). Add $300 > for a full Unix. > Given that pricing, why should someone your average user buy an A2000? SOFTWARE is a good one. If you can write all your own, OK. But for the the rest of us that need to buy it, you can get lots of A2000 software for the extra $2500 or so. Plus, the A2000 is expandable, the Sun 3/50 isn't. And next year at least a few folks will be running their Amiga in the same speed range as the Sun 3/50 for still quite a bit less, and they'll still be expandable. >