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From: cs313s02@uhccux.UUCP (Cs313s02)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: CBM and upgrade paths
Message-ID: <1079@uhccux.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 7-Nov-87 06:32:56 EST
Article-I.D.: uhccux.1079
Posted: Sat Nov  7 06:32:56 1987
Date-Received: Mon, 9-Nov-87 06:43:36 EST
References: <8711040542.AA29099@violet.berkeley.edu> <1203@omepd>
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In article <1203@omepd> hah@mipon3.UUCP (Hans Hansen) writes:
>
>The real STUPID act is the A1000 + $1000 = A/B2000.  While on the surface
>this seems like a real nice offer, a closer look shows just how stupid it
>really is.
>
>1)  It dose nothing to broaden the Amiga install base.

     But it does, if you play your cards right.  Find one of those dealers
that allow you to buy the A1000 back (say, $50), and then sell your old
A1000 for $400 - $600.  I'm sure there are people who's willing to buy
an A1000 for that price ( I know I do!).  And some of these people might
be new Amiga owners!

>2)  It KILLED the value of the A1000 !  Buy back your A1000 for $50 !!!

     Nah...  Actually it halved the value of A2000 to $500 more than A1000.
So what you actually get is A1000 + $450 = A2000 (if you sell the A1000 for
$600).  
 
>What C= should have done: 
>
>1)  Offer A/B2000 to A1000 and C64/128 owners for $1300 ... no trade in.  This
>    would have maintained the value of the A1000 while allowing existing owners
>    a fair "upgrade?" option.

     Which is steeper than $1,050 to upgrade with buyback.  People flamed the
$1,000 upgrade enough as it is...  
 
>2)  Offer a $300 trade in for Atari ST systems, $50 for Atari 800 et als,
>    $200 for IBM PC/x88 clones,  $300 for IBM PC/x86 clones and IBM PC/x88,
>    $400 for IBM PC/x86.... and then resell these for $50 to $300!

     I'm not too sure about this one.  It makes little economic sense for 
Commodore to buy these stuffs.  And I don't think I'll get so enthusiastic
about the Amiga that I trade in my AT for $400.  Just let them do what they
do best (lowering prices! 8=).
 
>Items needing fixing by C= :
>
>1)  Cheap box, improve the supports, add an option allowing Zorro I boards
>    to be housed within a CLOSED A/B2000.

     Ditto.  Expansion box prices are still out of reach for the avrage user.

>    [ 2) and 3) deleted, cause I don't know the answer 8-]

>4)  Fix the hardware incompatability problems that cause programs that work
>    on a A1000 w/exp RAM to GURU on the B2000.

     This you can't really blame C/A, as it's the fault of software developers
writing programs with the Apple II mentality ("We'll call the ROM anywhere
we damn well please!").  
 
>Hans			hah@inteloa  -or-  hah$mipon3
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