Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!iuvax!bsu-cs!cfchiesa From: cfchiesa@bsu-cs.UUCP (Christopher F. Chiesa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit Subject: Re: compilers for Atari 8bit Message-ID: <1444@bsu-cs.UUCP> Date: Sat, 7-Nov-87 17:31:44 EST Article-I.D.: bsu-cs.1444 Posted: Sat Nov 7 17:31:44 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 10-Nov-87 03:51:46 EST References: <127@nucleus.UUCP> <24460P7O@PSUVMA> Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana Lines: 29 Summary: Kyan Pascal I recently purchased Kyan Software's Pascal compiler, and I must admit I'm a little disappointed. The documentation is fairly thorogh in terms of Pascal and actually writing programs, but the entire section on how to get the environment (Editor, Compiler, Assembler, Utilities) seems to refer to an earlier form of the system - the user interface is almost completely DIFFERENT from what the manual says. I was able to work it out because I have used an Atari (and other computers) for many years and knew roughly what SHOULD need to be done, but I can see a lot of novices having trouble with this system as-is. My other major complaint about Kyan Pascal is that nearly EVERYTHING on the system is in a separate file which MUST be present on the SAME disk as the program-to-be-compiled. This leaves me with about 80 sectors free to use for Pascal source, intermediate Assembly source, and final executable file. On top of that, many of the more useful functions, even minor ones such as "PLOT" and "DRAWTO" equivalents, must be 'included' into your source code from still more - guess what - "required" files. You with 256K RAM should be all right, though, because there's support for the XL/XE D8: Ramdisk device, leaving you with a little more elbow room than I've got with a single-drive, single-density system. Personally I'm thinking of sending it back. Chris Chiesa Senior, CS Ball State University, Muncie IN 47305