Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!UOFMCC.BITNET!Postman From: Postman@UOFMCC.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Undelivered mail Message-ID: <8711140707.AA16324@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sat, 14-Nov-87 00:30:00 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8711140707.AA16324 Posted: Sat Nov 14 00:30:00 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Nov-87 16:26:27 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 360 Your mail was not delivered to some or all of its intended recipients for the following reason(s): 5001 mailbox invalid -> CHARLTO@UOFMCC.BITNET ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 87 23:30 CST To: CHARLTO@UOFMCC.BITNET From: Info-Atari16 Digest Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V87 #413 Received: by CANADA01 (Mailer X1.24) id 5626; Fri, 13 Nov 87 22:05:30 EDT Date: Thu 12 Nov 87 12:31:39 PST Reply-To: Info-Atari16@Score.Stanford.edu Sender: INFO-ATARI16 Discussion From: Info-Atari16 Digest Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V87 #413 To: Name Unknown , Jim Charlton , MIKE CHARLTON , Werner Ens , Name Unknown Info-Atari16 Digest Thursday, November 12, 1987 Volume 87 : Issue 413 This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield Today's Topics: binary and source uudecode Gulam Re: External Keyboard (Dec LK201) ST Minix status? Gulam notes (alpha test v0.01.00) -old Re: Worst product name award re: Uniterm 2.0 / BIGformat.acc Re: high density 3.5" disks GULAM PROBLEMS Re: FreeTerm 2.0 -- Doesn't work under MagicSac? OSS Pascal Wanted Re: Worst product name award RE: Info-Atari16 Digest V87 #411 What group? Re: External Keyboard ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed 11 Nov 1987 16:24 CDT From: Subject: binary and source To: How does one subscribe to the binary and source group for the Atari ST? Jeff Beer, UUCJEFF@ECNCDC ------------------------------ Date: 11 Nov 87 22:17:35 GMT From: zen!mercutio.berkeley.edu!c164-2ao@cad.Berkeley.EDU (Duy Le) Subject: uudecode Gulam To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu I received gulam in three pieces today. Do I need to concatenate these three uuencoded files and then uudecode the concatenated file? Thanks Duy ------------------------------ Date: 11 Nov 87 23:30:50 GMT From: decvax!minow@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Martin Minow) Subject: Re: External Keyboard (Dec LK201) To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu My apologies for posting this without summarizing the original article. However, as it refers to a safety issue, I feel the completeness is appropriate. In the attached article, Farrell Woods points out that the (Dec) LK201 keyboard warns the user against using an unapproved cable. Because he refers to "really cheap cables", the reader may incorrectly decide that expensive cables would work. While the LK201 cable looks like a standard modular phone cable, it is build using significantly heavier gauge wire -- as it carries the power needed by the keyboard. Ordinary LK201 usage exceeds the rated capacity of standard modular phone cables. You can order replacement cables from Dec Direct. Martin Minow decvax!minow The above does not represent the position of Digital Equipment Corporation. In article <105100029@datacube> ftw@datacube.UUCP writes: > >Your comments prompted me to look at the bottom of the LK-201 keyboard >I'm typing on right now. Indeed, it does have a warning about using only >"approved" cables for keyboard attachment, otherwise, "excessive overheating >may result in abnormal conditions.". Thanks for pointing that out. >I can picture a really cheap cable catching fire if the +5 to the keybaord >gets shorted for some weird reason. > >As for number of wires, I'm glad I said _maybe_, since I don't have a 520 >to take apart, old or new. ;-) > > > Farrell T. Woods > >Datacube Inc. Systems / Software Group 4 Dearborn Rd. Peabody, Ma 01960 >VOICE: 617-535-6644; FAX: (617) 535-5643; TWX: (710) 347-0125 >INTERNET: ftw@datacube.COM >UUCP: {rutgers, ihnp4, mirror}!datacube!ftw ------------------------------ Date: 11 Nov 87 23:48:11 GMT From: sandra@cs.utah.edu (Sandra J Loosemore) Subject: ST Minix status? To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu A couple of us here at Utah have been wondering what ever happened to the port of Minix to the Atari ST. Anybody out there know the current status of this project? -Sandra Loosemore sandra@cs.utah.edu (sandra@utah-cs.uucp) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 87 12:29:31 EST From: pyrdc!gmu90x!wmcs!nh!csrobe@uunet.UU.NET (Chip Roberson) To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Subject: Gulam notes (alpha test v0.01.00) -old A couple of comments and questions about Gulam. 1) There is a command called 'sx' that is documented by referring you to a command called 'rx', but rx doesn't exist. Can someone tell me what these commands do? 2) From ue (emacs) when you type a ~K is 'temporarily' pops you into Gulam and your editing buffers are not FREED. The manual says to try this but doesn't say how to return to emacs. So far I only tried running emacs then ~x~b to the buffer i was editing. Is there a more direct way to return to your editing after doing a ~z (oops that was supposed to be a ~z not a ~k up there, sorry). 3) Finally, in ue, if you do several delete-backward-words (M-BS) then do a yank (~Y) your deletes will be restored in reverse order. SO the line, Delete this line backwards. becomes backwards. line this Delete when you restore. *~*~*~*~*~* How does one get to atari-sources to find out what is there and to ultimately upload or download (correct terminology?) something to/from them or is it only a part of netnews. thanks, -chip ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chip Roberson ARPANET: csrobe@icase.arpa 1105 London Company Way BITNET: $csrobe@wmmvs.bitnet Williamsburg, VA 23185 UUCP: ...!uunet!pyrdc!gmu90x!wmcs!csrobe ------------------------------------------------------------------------- *(*please note change in UUCP address ~~~~~~~~~~~ seismo is gone*)* ------------------------------ Date: 12 Nov 87 02:53:07 GMT From: nosc!humu!uhccux!cm450s02@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu (jeff t. segawa) Subject: Re: Worst product name award To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <618@applix.UUCP> scott@applix.UUCP (Scott Evernden) writes: >Moses PromiseLAN ? ??? Hmmm. That IS pretty bad. I thought Lotus had the worst name with "Modern Jazz". After Symphony and Jazz, I can't help but wonder what the next product will be called. Lotus Heavy Metal, perhaps? Why no one at Lotus ever thought of calling the new product "4-5-6" is beyond me. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Nov 87 18:00:10 GMT From: decvax!linus!philabs!sbcs!lean@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Lean L. Loh) Subject: re: Uniterm 2.0 / BIGformat.acc To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu As was mentioned in a previous posting, Uniterm 2.0 is NOT out yet, but will be very very soon. So you panicky guys did not missed any postings. Uniterm 2.0BETA version can be obtained from the server at Houston, although I'm not sure if it's supposed to be there. Since the official version 2.0 will be out very soon now, I think we should just wait. As i mentioned in my posting of BIGformat.acc, it worked fine for me on my monochrome although the read/writes are slower. I've used it for about 2 months now, mostly for storing documents and misc stuff. If it caused trouble for anyone, I hereby apologize. I posted it because I got quite a number of request from fellow-netters. Anyone out there using publishing partner together with Beckemeyers' C-SHell or GULAM? Please email me. Thanks -- CSNET: lean@sbcs.csnet ARPA: lean%suny-sb.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa UUCP: {allegra, hocsd, philabs, ogcvax}!sbcs!lean ------------------------------ Date: 11 Nov 87 21:04:48 GMT From: pepper!cmcmanis@sun.com (Chuck McManis) Subject: Re: high density 3.5" disks To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu The scoop on the high density drives is that they use a data clock that is twice as fast as the low density drives. On Amiga/Atari/PC-XT type 5.25 and 3.5 inch disks this clock runs at 250Khz, on the AT and PS/2 this clock runs at 500Khz. Exactly double the speed, means you can fit twice as many sectors on a track and double your storage (720K -> 1440K). The standard Western Digital minifloppy only controllers will not read or write this format. The WD1793 and family of dual 8"/5.25" controllers will given they are supplied with the proper clock. Also, when you double the bit rate you cram more bits in the same space so your drive mechanism has to be able to resolve a higher number of flux changes/inch (fci) and the diskette has to be capable of retaining those flux changes faithfully. So all you need are a new controller, drive, and diskettes and you're all set. No I don't if anyone is planning on offering them for the above mentioned computers (except the AT and PS/2 of course). --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Nov 87 21:17:25 GMT From: ihnp4!homxb!homxc!jdn@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (J.NAGY) Subject: GULAM PROBLEMS To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Has anyone succesfully uudecoded the recent GULAM postings? I found that all my byte counts were initially 2 bytes larger than those posted, pesumably due to two extra blank lines at the end of each file. I deleted these extraneous blank lines, and all the byte counts matched. But when I try to to uudecode them, I get the message "Short file", and indeed, my gulam.arc is only 22284 bytes. [My files are correctly named gulam.uaa, etc.] Any suggestions? Jonathan Nagy {ihnp4|allegra|harvard}!homxc!jdn (201) 615-4349 ------------------------------ Date: 12 Nov 87 05:12:30 GMT From: jcc@ngp.utexas.edu (J. Chris Cooley) Subject: Re: FreeTerm 2.0 -- Doesn't work under MagicSac? To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <2137@brspyr1.BRS.Com>, tim@brspyr1.BRS.Com (Tim Northrup) writes: > > FreeTerm 2.0 which was recently posted to the MacIntosh binaries group > doesn't appear to work using the MagicSac on the Atari ST. This seems > strange seeing as the Data Pacific folks tout FreeTerm 1.8 as *the* > terminal package to use with the Sac. > > Does FreeTerm 2.0 work with version 4.5x of the MagicSac driver? > (I am using 4.36 -- latest from CompuServe) Isn't MagicSac that thing that needs Apple ROMs to operate? Where'd you get your ROMs? ------------------------------ Date: 11 Nov 87 22:43:24 GMT From: dalcs!aucs!870646c@uunet.uu.net (comer) Subject: OSS Pascal Wanted To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Hi all, I am in the need of a copy of OSS's Personal Pascal. If there is anyone out there that has this product and is not using it, could you please drop a message my way with you phone number, or address that I could get it from you. later Barry ------------------------------ Date: 12 Nov 87 06:14:20 GMT From: zen!sim.Berkeley.EDU!pchris@cad.Berkeley.EDU (Chris Perleberg) Subject: Re: Worst product name award To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <1107@uhccux.UUCP> cm450s02@uhccux.UUCP (jeff t. segawa) writes: >In article <618@applix.UUCP> scott@applix.UUCP (Scott Evernden) writes: >>Moses PromiseLAN ? ??? > >Hmmm. That IS pretty bad. I thought Lotus had the worst name with >"Modern Jazz". After Symphony and Jazz, I can't help but wonder what >the next product will be called. Lotus Heavy Metal, perhaps? Why no one >at Lotus ever thought of calling the new product "4-5-6" is beyond me. Maybe not such a bad name after all. It'll be 40 years before we see that "Promised LAN" ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 87 09:35 EDT From: NARESH SODHA Subject: RE: Info-Atari16 Digest V87 #411 To: Info-Atari16@score.stanford.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"Info-Atari16@Score.Stanford.edu" q s ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 87 14:30:15 EST From: Flash%UMass.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: What group? To: INFO-ATARI16@score.stanford.edu In-Reply-To: atari st <871111125620.0001BFBB.AAAI.MA@Mars.UCC.UMass.EDU> What group are you talking about? Info-Atari16? Rick ------------------------------ Date: 12 Nov 87 01:33:14 GMT From: imagen!atari!portal!cup.portal.com!ANKH@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: External Keyboard To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Sorry, Mr Glasser...but the new 520's *do* have the mouse joystick ports in the front. They also have a drive built in. I know, because I bought one of these for my daughter in July. Also, there is no clumsy transformer on your desktop. It is a lot different than my 520, which is like yours... ports on the side. etc,etc. ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ************************** -------