Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!hsi!cjsa!jeff From: jeff@cjsa.UUCP (C. Jeffery Small) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: Adding extra console window gettys: maybe not a good idea Message-ID: <47@cjsa.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Nov-87 14:47:06 EST Article-I.D.: cjsa.47 Posted: Thu Nov 12 14:47:06 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Nov-87 02:48:46 EST References: <750@neoucom.UUCP> Organization: C. Jeffery Small and Associates - New Haven, CT Lines: 55 Keywords: made my 3b1 crash at odd intervals Summary: Similar problem with no change to inittab! ... In article <750@neoucom.UUCP>, wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) writes: > #ifdef lineater > > After a > few days, the machine crashed inexplicably. The screen still > displayed, the mouse pointer moved, and the modem would go off hook > in response to an incomming call. The machine would simply ingore > anything typed in over the console or modem. On the command line > at the bottom of the screen there was a message to the effect, > "there isn't enough memory. close some windows." Hmmmm.. > Curious, there is only one window open. > I too have experienced a similar problem on a new 3B1 running 3.51. Typically, I will log into my Office and enter UNIX. As the ksh starts up, my system often hangs completely. Note: (Sometimes I make it into the k-shell and execute a few commands before the system hangs. Other times the system hangs somewhere between login: and Enter Password: !!) As Bill reported above, the only responses you can get from the kernel are: - Mouse pointer movement - Moving/resizing Office window You cannot do the following: - Get a shell prompt - Close the Office window - Use Help - Access the Window [W] Icon - Access the phone manager ... etc - Cannot login on remote terminal - no getty(s) running. However, if you click the mouse at various points on the Status line, you can get the following error message (like Bill reported) to appear: Error - can't create window - Touch ENTER to continue. The only recourse is to reboot the system. There is no indication in the adm logs of a problem and I have been unable to locate any other signs of distress. After reboot, the system runs fine for one or more days and then the problem repeats. I have three 3B1 systems and this problem only occurs on one machine. The suspect machine has a 2-port expansion board and is used as the primary machine for uucp (usenet) feed. These are the only real differences of note. Unlike Bill, I have made no modifications to inittab and I do not have any special programs running which might burn up system resources. Anyone out there have any insight into this one! Any suggestions will be appreciated. -- Jeffery Small (203) 776-2000 UUCP: uunet!---\ C. Jeffery Small and Associates ihnp4!--- hsi!cjsa!jeff 123 York Street, New Haven, CT 06511 hao!noao!---/