Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!cartan!maypo!koonce From: koonce@maypo (tim koonce) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m6809 Subject: Re: Proposal for Graphics Format Std. Message-ID: <1403@cartan.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 13-Nov-87 22:18:28 EST Article-I.D.: cartan.1403 Posted: Fri Nov 13 22:18:28 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Nov-87 12:04:35 EST References: <2117@lsuc.UUCP> <1138@wlbr.EATON.COM> <2154@lsuc.UUCP> Sender: nobody@cartan.Berkeley.EDU Reply-To: koonce@maypo.UUCP (tim koonce) Distribution: na Organization: UC Berkeley Math Department Lines: 43 I agree to a large extent with some of what you're saying, Jim. As a good example, Ward Christensen (inventor of the XModem protocol) claims that the only reason his protocol became so popular is because it was developed early in the development of micro communications, and because he immediately posted it in the public domain, and because it was a simple protocol to implement. i.e. If someone wants to develop a protocol to be popular, the best way to do it is to make the protocol and software PD. That's pretty clear, I think. And, from what I've heard, the GIF and VEF formats *are* Public Domain. I could be wrong on this, though. Unfortunately, that doesn't always make the specs easy to find. (I'm still trying to find the Kermit specs, and spent a good while looking for the YModem specs.) On the other hand, some people *do* like to see a little cash-in-pocket after spending thousands of hours on a program. It's a curious conflict of interests. One typically has the choice between a program becoming popular (PD or shareware), or making some money from it. Plus, your concern over animation/sequencing may be easily solvable through a modification to an existing standard. Most protocols try to build in some extra flexibility for future additions, often through leaving undefined mode bytes, etc. Seems that the thing for you to do is to *first* find out as much as possible about *existing* formats, and then modify them, if necessary, to suit your needs before complaining about them. Tim Koonce +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |ARPA: koonce@bosco.berkeley.edu | | |Delphi: TIMKOONCE | | |CIS: [72276,1135] | | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Tim Koonce