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From: jimomura@lsuc.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Re: Fast 68000s?
Message-ID: <2143@lsuc.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 9-Nov-87 21:29:31 EST
Article-I.D.: lsuc.2143
Posted: Mon Nov  9 21:29:31 1987
Date-Received: Wed, 11-Nov-87 06:18:19 EST
References: <7487@dartvax.UUCP> <2118@lsuc.UUCP> <384@auvax.UUCP>
Reply-To: jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura)
Organization: Consultant, Toronto
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Summary: Still better to change



In article <384@auvax.UUCP> rwa@auvax.UUCP (Ross Alexander) writes:
>In article <2118@lsuc.UUCP>, jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) writes:
>...
>>      I disagree.  I'd rather see the 68000 completely phased out
>> in favour of lower cost versions of the 68010, 68020 and 68030.
>> These are better processors and in the case of the 68010, pin
>> compatible.

>Well, pin compatability is one thing, but some of us are using brain-damaged
>software and OS's that get all f****d up when presented with 68010 exception
>frames and so on (Atari shall not be mentioned to protect the guilty).

     Yeah, but don't blame me for that.  I keep telling people
to use OS-9.  You know what?  Under OS-9 you can write "generic"
68K family software.  You can also write processor specific
software where it's clearly advantageous, but I run a number
of programs on my 68020 machine and 68000 machine interchange-
ably.

     Besides, for the most part, the software isn't usually that
hard to fix.  I few minutes with a text processor and a recompile
are often all that's needed.  And heck, you want to build up
*more* non-portable software and lock yourself into an outdated
processor even worse, or do you want to make start into a clean
future now?

Cheers! -- Jim O.

>But I still would like my toy box to go faster.  What's a fellow to do?  Your
>answer is: go whistle.  I would like a more positive response from a vendor,
>perhaps a 24 MHz 68000 ;-)

     You could do what I did.  Buy a better computer to hook up
to your "toy" computer.  I run a CoCo3, Atari ST and QT-20X.
That's 6809, 68000 and 68020.  All 3 run OS-9 in various forms
by the way and as noted, in the case of the ST and QT-20X I
can even write programs to run on both interchangeably.



-- 
Jim Omura, 2A King George's Drive, Toronto, (416) 652-3880
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