Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!munnari!moncskermit!goanna!yabbie!koel!rcopm From: rcopm@koel.rmit.oz (Paul Menon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Apple Stumbling (was "Apple Hates You and other Misconceptions") Message-ID: <329@koel.rmit.oz> Date: Mon, 2-Nov-87 20:09:31 EST Article-I.D.: koel.329 Posted: Mon Nov 2 20:09:31 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Nov-87 20:46:59 EST References: <6659@ut-ngp.UUCP> Organization: RMIT Comm & Elec Eng, Melbourne, Australia. Lines: 59 kraut@ngp writes... > aren't you glad that "just enough" of us bought a 128k Mac in 1984 (and used > them as doorstoppers) to allow Apple to make it to 1985 (and the arrival of > cheaper 256k RAM-chips) so that the "rest of you" could get on the bandwagon. > Isn't anyone ever going to say thanks ??? > ((-: This is marketing at its best. Get the ones that can see the potential for a machine committed (ie get them to buy the pre-prototype), then change the machine slightly. The suckers will still "follow" like loyal puppies. Keep doing this and watch the fun. Yes, I was one of those suckers who purchased a 128k Mac in the 1st half of '84. I now have an "old" 512 Mac and refuse to upgrade it any further. I still have access to the "new breed" at work, but am annoyed at the way that the original supporters of the Mac are the ones that have the most expensive Macs. Not just because of the drop in price, but due to the rip-off upgrade prices, and perhaps the "embedded" dependence on the need for upgrades. Take the Mac II for example. Why did Apple choose NuBus? One reason must have been that it would support the 68030's very capable burst mode transfer. So what does the MacII have? Burst mode transfer between Nubus slots, but NOT with motherboard transactions. Why???? One could only guess an upgrade is in the wings to a MacII+ (which has a 68030) where all MacII owners can once again donate to a worthy cause by upgrading the logic on the motherboard. This also means (once again) that it won't be a simple matter of swapping chips. Very good planning. I s'pose there aren't going to be too many suckers this time, only the idle rich can afford the MacII as a PERSONAL computer. But, I do know of some that have BOUGHT a MacII, not as a tax dodge, not by getting a company to by them one, but out of their own money. No they aren't idle rich, they like what they see - enough to stretch themselves to get one. I just hope for their sake that they don't regret believing that the MacII, as it stands, will be supported for some time. The above seems to contradict that. On a different tack - I occasionally look at what's happening to the blue-chip crowd. I was told of this amazing NEW package called Meta-windows. I am not sure how long it has been on the market, but I could only smile when I opened the manual and saw a part of the list of routines available. Yes Apple, you have done well, very well in the s/w department. This is the only reason why I purchased the my 128k Mac. This is the only reason why I still believe that the Macs are years ahead of anything else. This is the only reason that, one day, I might be rash enough to purchase another of your line. "Opinion? Yooo Betcha!" Paul Menon. Dept of Communication & Electronic Engineering, Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, 124 Latrobe St, Melbourne, 3000, Australia ACSnet: rcopm@koel UUCP: ...!seismo!munnari!koel.rmit.oz!rcopm CSNET: rcopm@koel.rmit.oz ARPA: rcopm%koel.rmit.oz@seismo BITNET: rcopm%koel.rmit.oz@CSNET-RELAY PHONE: +61 3 660 2619.