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From: phil@apple.UUCP (Phil Ronzone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: IC Layout Software for the Mac II
Message-ID: <6749@apple.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 16-Nov-87 13:46:14 EST
Article-I.D.: apple.6749
Posted: Mon Nov 16 13:46:14 1987
Date-Received: Wed, 18-Nov-87 04:42:57 EST
References: <887@aluxz.UUCP> <21780@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Reply-To: phil@apple.UUCP (Phil Ronzone)
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA
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Keywords: CAD, MacII

In article <21780@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> mayo@mustard (Bob Mayo) writes:
>Just to make sure that no rumors are started, Magic is NOT public domain.
>The program is copyrighted by the University of California.  The software license
>is pretty liberal, and always includes source code.  We *usually* don't mind if 
>people share their mods & ports, as long as large amounts of source code aren't 
>passed around and the parties involved all have licenses.  The program is far
>too big to email (about 120K lines of C code).
>
>As far as running on a MacII, I've heard that rumor but don't have any offical
>confirmation.  If you have seen it running let me know!
>
>--Bob Mayo

Yes - in Mar-87, Apple ported Magic (latest sources as existed then) to
an early alpha version of A/UX for demonstration at Macworld in March. From
source tape spinning until done was 16 hours. It was ported onto the first
port of X (10.4), which itself took about 2 manweeks. The port of Magic took
so long because it was brought up in a black-and-white world, and colors
were hacked into stipple patterns. When done, we could zook in and out of
floor plans and other fun things, but it did core dump often. We got it good
enough for demo and that is where we stop. Apple no longer has sources,
the binary images, etc. and has no plans/desire to support/port or sell it.
However, given 16 hours for 120,000 lines of code, it should not be
difficult. (Apple thanks Stanford very very much for their help in the
port of Magic).


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