Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!aurora!labrea!jade!saturn!ucscc.UCSC.EDU!fiatlux From: fiatlux@ucscc.UCSC.EDU.ucsc.edu (David Vangerov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Disapearing Hard Drives on a Mac II Message-ID: <1155@saturn.ucsc.edu> Date: Tue, 17-Nov-87 04:46:44 EST Article-I.D.: saturn.1155 Posted: Tue Nov 17 04:46:44 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Nov-87 03:48:46 EST Sender: usenet@saturn.ucsc.edu Reply-To: fiatlux@ucscc.UCSC.EDU (David Vangerov) Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; CATS Lines: 49 Keywords: no hard drive all of a sudden I don't remember the article specifically, and I don't feel like looking back for it, but someone had a problem when they set their ram cache to 750K and then couldn't undo. Well, along the way to undoing this, his hard drive suddenly disapeared from his Mac II, and he had to reformat it. Well, this happened to the one we had a at work (and another one with the same problem came into the shop a while ago) and I managed to restore the drive without having to reformat it and such. What happens is that some application that you were running has managed to die and you were forced to reboot. Instead of getting a happy mac and the mac rebooting in less than 7 seconds (WOW!, what speed!), you get an icon asking you to insert disk. I don't know how the Mac manages to forget about it's internal hard drive, but it happens (and damn annoying when it does). Anyways, this happened to me, I was very panicked and wonder if I had trashed the disk somehow (I was attempting to restore someones crashed disk and must've done something to the hard disk by accident). Anyways, it's not there, I know that it is. Solution, not reformatting it. All I had to do was get out my systems tool disk, boot up with it, and then run the hard disk installer (HDSC setup 1.4, I believe), it managed to find the drive, I simply ran a test of the disk and updated the driver (the second time it happened we just updated the driver) and after that, the disk came back and things work just fine now. A lot easier than having to reformat the disk and then restore from backup (assuming that you are a responsible user and backup your hardisk every week). Reformatting the drive won't help restore the control panel settings to "factory mode" because the settings of the control panel (and the other CDEV's, if I'm not mistaken) is kept in a special part of memory that stays there even with the power off. Someone called it the PRAM. I haven't dared try this with our mac II yet, thought it would seem that all you have to do is remove the battery for a second and then pop it back in if Command-Shift-Option-Whatever doesn't do it for you. Of course the battery on a Mac II is a little harder to get to than on a standard Mac 512/Plus. +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | David Vangerov | | Just your average Theater Arts major with a weird thing for computers | | fiatlux@ucscc.BITNET || fiatlux@ucscc.ucsc.EDU || ...!ucbvax!ucscc!fiatlux | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+