Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ukma!gatech!mcnc!ece-csc!ncrcae!ncr-sd!hp-sdd!hplabs!hpda!hpsmtc1!kwallich From: kwallich@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (Ken Wallich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Installer 2.5 glitches Message-ID: <11540048@hpsmtc1.HP.COM> Date: Thu, 19-Nov-87 14:19:58 EST Article-I.D.: hpsmtc1.11540048 Posted: Thu Nov 19 14:19:58 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Nov-87 14:12:28 EST References: <18374@amdahl.amdahl.com> Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino Lines: 35 Let me echo a resounding AAARRRGGGGG!!! >I'm using the new system and finder (4.2/6.0) , and I'm running into >problems with Installer 2.5. ^^^^^^^^ What do you call Nuclear War, a "family disturbance?" This is the most assinine piece of software Apple has tried to shove on us. It is totally, absolutely, and positively unusable on a single floppy system. After 45 some disc swaps (about 30 minutes worth), it CRASHED!!!! I only continued swapping so I could count up how many swaps there were, then the program bombs! I also used a BLANK floppy to install onto. Can any sane human explain why 20 disc swaps are necessary to figure out what the SIZES are? There were no bleeding files on the disc to be installed, why does the installer keep asking me to put it in? It just "checking sizes", not writing to the disc at all. I can only assume that all Apple utilites are written on HD systems with no thought of what a floppy user might do. The utility does work on a hard disc with no problem (except being slow), however there are instances where I didn't want to employ the hard disc (like when installing the stuff I got with my macII on my "upgraded" 128-512-512ke machine, which only has one 800K drive). The documentation does recommend (at least I think I read it) not to use the installer on a 1 floppy system, but the documentation also tells me not to do a copy of the system and finder. I recommend erasing it from all your discs, and pretending it never existed. It would make the world a better place. Ken "if Apple didn't make such great machines, I'd buy something else" Wallich ---------