Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!uwvax!oddjob!gargoyle!ihnp4!ihlpf!straka From: straka@ihlpf.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: More Mac prices Message-ID: <2812@ihlpf.ATT.COM> Date: Wed, 18-Nov-87 09:35:36 EST Article-I.D.: ihlpf.2812 Posted: Wed Nov 18 09:35:36 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Nov-87 05:37:52 EST References: <460@aucs.UUCP> <57900011@sfu_cmpt> <1275@csib.csi.UUCP> Reply-To: straka@ihlpf.UUCP (55223-Straka,R.J.) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, Illinois Lines: 41 In article <1294@csib.csi.UUCP> jwhitnel@csib.UUCP (Jerry Whitnell) writes: >In article <3665@pwcs.StPaul.GOV> dennisg@pwcs.StPaul.GOV (Dennis Grittner) writes: >|more competition in the Mac market. Has everybody noticed how >|CHEAP winchesters are for PC's?? I wouldnm't mind if some of that >and oranges (sorry :-)). For the PC, all you have to buy is the drive itself, >while for the Mac (at least pre-SE/II), you have to buy not only the drive, >but also a SCSI controller, a power supply and an enclosure. So the cost Small point, but of course the PC world also has to buy a disk controller. However, with a million or two of them in the market, manufacturing costs and competition have reduced the controller prices to 1/2 that of mac scsi controllers (plus the SCSI controller is a fancier beast, anyway). The real price (not cost) kickers are: 1) Case and PS adder: ~$100 - $150 2) Cabling adder: ~$ 30 - $ 50 3) Support adder: ~$ 50 - $500 (depending on vendor) remember, basically NO support for PC drives. 4) Lack of major competition adder: ~$ ? - $ ? ------------ Total: $180 - $700 + ? The typical PC 20 meg HD (with controller and cable) via mail order can be found (assuming rock-bottom prices) for just under $300. I just saw an ad in (the back of) MacWeek for a Rodime HD for $499. If you add up the $300 basic cost and the low $180, you get $480. Summary: The above factors are costing Mac users a fair amount of money. However, the prices of the low-support, mail-order outfits ARE approaching the same sort of low-profit competitiveness of the PC world. But DON'T start looking for prices much less than $500 for a stand-alone Mac HD. The economics just aren't there. At least, not just yet. -- Rich Straka ihnp4!ihlpf!straka Advice for the day: "MSDOS - just say no."