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From: dennisg@pwcs.StPaul.GOV (Dennis Grittner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
Subject: Re: 90x upgrades
Message-ID: <3676@pwcs.StPaul.GOV>
Date: Sun, 15-Nov-87 20:49:05 EST
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Posted: Sun Nov 15 20:49:05 1987
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In article <4395@caip.rutgers.edu> scarter@caip.rutgers.edu (Stephen M. Carter) writes:
>In article <516@udiego.UUCP> stokes@udiego.UUCP (David M. Stokes) writes:
>>I've just got the word that we'll have the $$$ to upgrade our
>>90x to a 9805. Now I have to start preping for the upgrade
>>(hopefully in January) and was wondering what sort of problems
>>others have encountered in 90x upgrades.
>>
>
>We went from a 90x to a 9810 in about 24 hours.  I don't recall any major
>problems and the hardware was easy as Pyramid shipped in a whole new box
>and just moved the disks, memory, and tape over.

We didn't actually upgrade from a 90x to a 98(1,2,3,4)0, we went from a
90x to a 98xe. The whole thing went pretty smooth. It was done
in a few hours. I think the entire time we were out of
productionn ( we did it on a weekend so the time wasn't as
important ) was less than an 8 hour day. Obviously, you can have
a lot more trouble than this.

Then, for 'some silly accounting/budget/political reasons' here
we had to temporarily go back to a 90x for a month or so and we
had all kinds of problems with reliability, etc. 

The only BAD software upgrade was the FAMOUS 3.1(?) upgrade where
damned near everything was 'wrong', undocumented, etc - my
exaggeration. Some of us on PUG ( Pyramid User Group ) complaimed
to Pyramid a lot and the 4 release was a heck of a lot better. My
experience with DEC was a lot worse - I remember a 'b' patch that
crashed our system and they didn't fix that one till 'j' which
was released two months later. I've never had a PTF cause that
kind of problem with Pyramid.

I think that you should go ahead and do your upgrade. In general
the Pyramid folk have been pretty good. I think 3.1 was an
experience for everybody at Pyramid that they learned from.



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Dennis Grittner		City of Saint Paul, Minnesota
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