Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!ames!elroy!david From: david@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (David Robinson) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: BSD uucp over ethernet Message-ID: <4799@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> Date: Mon, 9-Nov-87 00:52:21 EST Article-I.D.: elroy.4799 Posted: Mon Nov 9 00:52:21 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Nov-87 02:40:15 EST References: <674@zycad.UUCP> <3052@psuvax1.psu.edu> <33008@sun.uucp> <331@ndcheg.UUCP> Organization: Image Analysis Systems Grp, JPL Lines: 51 Keywords: how do I do it? - with mirrors In article <331@ndcheg.UUCP>, evan@ndcheg.UUCP (Evan Bauman) writes: > In article <33286@sun.uucp>, guy@gorodish.Sun.COM (Guy Harris) writes: > > > As the original subject line was "BSD uucp over ethernet" I made the > > > assumption that the person in question was running BSD UNIX. If this is > > > not the case then you are correct. > > Even if they *are* running BSD they may not have 4.3BSD-compatible support for > > UUCP over TCP/IP; 4.2BSD's UUCP didn't have it. It all depends on *which* BSD > > they're running.... > So that's it? I can't run uucp over ethernet because Sun's OS is a > derivative of 4.2BSD. This is the first reasonable answer I've received. > Thanks to Mr. Harris for clearing this up. So when will Sun ship 4.3BSD? :) > Evan Bauman I have made a formal complaint/request to Sun to provide 4.3bsd UUCP support but had it politely rejected. Their arguements were that they did not precieve a need or desire of their users to have 4.3bsd UUCP. They do not see a need for TCP/IP UUCP and think that machines should forward their mail to a central mail machine via sendmail and have it UUCP it to the outside world. This is fine if your network is an island and all outside communication is via phone lines but if you are as so many more are now, connected to a wide area network such as NSFnet or the DARPA Internet or in our case the NSInet we like our central main machine to UUCP to other sites via TCP/IP in other states using the existing networks. My solution was to port 4.3bsd UUCP to our main Sun machines. This works if you have access to 4.3bsd source but otherwise you are out of luck. Another point which is valid from a commercial point of view is that 4.3bsd UUCP has a different directory structure and some files are quite different. This would mean the the entire installed base would have to make significant changes between major revisions. Other companies such as Masscomp devised their own UUCP over TCP/IP protocol that is unique to their machines, it is nice but completely incompatible with all existing TCP/IP UUCP's. -- David Robinson elroy!david@csvax.caltech.edu ARPA david@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov ames!elroy!david UUCP Disclaimer: No one listens to me anyway!