Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!unisoft!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: X Windows for the IBM PC/XT/AT now available! Message-ID: <3371@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Sat, 21-Nov-87 22:46:53 EST Article-I.D.: hoptoad.3371 Posted: Sat Nov 21 22:46:53 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 23-Nov-87 07:11:32 EST References: <299@idi.UUCP> Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 40 The X distribution policy is a fine thing (a lot better than the SunView distribution policy!); I just wanted to remind folks of the big difference between it and the GNU policy, as this sort of thing becomes more and more common: > We're happy to announce the availability of an X Windows > Server for the IBM PC/XT/AT under PC/DOS. > $99.95 1st copy of server > 89.95 2nd thru 10th copies > 79.95 11th and up copies > All software comes with a free first update, and is not copy > protected (we like to think that our prices are low enough that it's > not worth having to deal with pirated copies). OEM/VAR terms and source > code are available -- call for details. If this was licensed like GNU, there would be no question of source code, or of paying more money for duplicating floppies. (Also, since this ad doesn't say which version, it's sure to be X10.) I was reading the new HP test & measurement catalog and came across another example: X Window System for Series-300: X Window System (with XrLIB) $715 right to make one copy $355 X Window System for HP Model 825: X Window System (with XrLIB) $2100 right to make one copy $1470 Seems like a lot to pay for public access code. With GNU distribution, ten people could buy one copy (with source, and all the HP-specific hacks) at the outrageous price and then go into business selling it at a reasonable price. As it is, each company will end up jealously guarding some proprietary part of its X implementation to "discourage" people from doing their own port. -- {pyramid,ptsfa,amdahl,sun,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@toad.com Love your country but never trust its government. -- from a hand-painted road sign in central Pennsylvania