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From: pac@munsell.UUCP (Paul Czarnecki)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Defending Eric Mading
Message-ID: <1399@pinney.munsell.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 23-Nov-87 08:33:54 EST
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Posted: Mon Nov 23 08:33:54 1987
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Reply-To: pac@pinney.UUCP (Paul Czarnecki)
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In article <467@inco.UUCP> mack@inco.UUCP (Dave Mack) writes:
>In article <1377@pinney.munsell.UUCP>, pac@munsell.UUCP (Paul Czarnecki) writes:
>> As a news administrator I feel personally responsible (not legally
>> responsible) for all articles that leave this site.  I don't agree
>> with all of them, and I wouldn't have posted some of them, but I want
>> all of them to be "good"* articles.  I have never had to cancel an
>> article and I hope never to do so.
>
>As a news administrator I take no responsibility whatsoever for
>what users at my site post. 

I think a "bad" article reflects on me.  I guess we disagree.

>                             It isn't my job to decide what constitutes
>a "good" article, to act as a censor or an English teacher.

I think that you have misunderstood me somewhat. (and I realize that
my original posting was unclear) I have never and would never change
the mental content of a posting.  The purpose of my monitoring is to
check the mechanical content.  I filter double signatures,
inappropriate news group, inappropriate cross posting etc....  What
flies in alt.flame would should not show up in unix-wizards.  Most
users who make a mistake are genuinely glad to have been notified.
This prevents the mistake from occurring again.  (Now if only
canceling worked conveniently here it would prevent the mistake from
leaving the site altogether.)

The main purpose of my posting was to point out that news
administrators do not have to sit back and wait for people to mail
them "offensive" articles.  The sys file lets them watch outgoing
traffic.

>> If all news administrators did this, then "Dinette Set for Sale in NJ"
>> articles would disappear.
>
>And FASCIST would be unnecessary in the news software. 

FACIST doesn't prevent the 1st occurrence.

FACIST doesn't help you if you are not aware of the problem.  sys file
monitoring can notify you before the article leaves the site.

>Do you really
>think that all news admins are fair and unbiased enough to make this
>desirable?

No, I don't think all news admins are fair.  I wish it were the case.
I think I'm fair.  I hope I am right.  (I think Eric is Fair :-)

I don't that news admin censorship *is* desirable.  I think we have a
small communication problem.

>  		Dave Mack, McDonnell Douglas-Inco, Inc.

					pZ
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