Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bbn!uwmcsd1!uwmacc!uwspan!root From: root@uwspan.UUCP (John Plocher) Newsgroups: news.misc Subject: Re: Newsgroup vote counting: a proposed modifacation Message-ID: <171@uwspan.UUCP> Date: Fri, 6-Nov-87 13:41:21 EST Article-I.D.: uwspan.171 Posted: Fri Nov 6 13:41:21 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 8-Nov-87 16:37:54 EST References: <4965@oberon.USC.EDU> <6695@ut-ngp.UUCP> <1578@haddock.ISC.COM> <375@tardis.cc.umich.edu> Reply-To: root@uwspan.UUCP (John Plocher) Followup-To: news.misc Distribution: na Organization: UW-Madison Spanish Dept Lines: 39 +---- Shane Looker writes in <375@tardis.cc.umich.edu> ---- | +--- Karl Heuer writes: | | It should be emphasized that posted votes NEVER count. Even if you tried a | | direct reply first, and it failed, that isn't sufficient justification. | +---- | | I don't think it is right to keep me from voting for a group I want just | because there is a brain-dead mailer between my machine and your machine. +---- Sure it is. If the poster of the request for votes doesn't give a valid path from a well known site (pick one of: utzoo, uunet, rutgers, sun, umich, decwrl, gatech, ucb, et al) then s/he won't get many votes at all and the group won't be created. Someone who takes the responsibility of starting a group should *be expected* to know something about the net, mailers and the like. If s/he doesn't know enough to give a valid mailing address then s/he needs to spend a bit more time learning the ropes. If you don't know how to get mail to some place, try asking your SA (mail root ...) or if you are the SA, try asking your uucp neighbors (mail neighbor!root ...). Please spend some of *your* time learning about the system before you waste *our* time with inapropriate things like votes! If your mail bounces back because of a `brain-dead' mailer at site foo, send a note to postmaster@foo or root@foo ( ...!foo!postmaster or ...!foo!root) and advise the SA of the problem. Chances are that the SA will try and help :-) In closing, ignorance (of net-etiquette, of how to send mail, ...) is no excuse for posting votes. Posted Votes NEVER Count (ever!) -John (rutgers!uwvax!uwspan!plocher, or plocher@uwspan.uucp) -- Email to unix-at-request@uwspan with questions about the newsgroup unix-at, otherwise mail to unix-at@uwspan with a Subject containing one of: 386 286 Bug Source Merge or "Send Buglist" (Bangpath: rutgers!uwvax!uwspan!unix-at & rutgers!uwvax!uwspan!unix-at-request)