Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ooblick From: ooblick@eddie.MIT.EDU (Mikki Barry) Newsgroups: news.sysadmin Subject: Re: Defending Eric Mading Message-ID: <7489@eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Tue, 24-Nov-87 10:38:44 EST Article-I.D.: eddie.7489 Posted: Tue Nov 24 10:38:44 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Nov-87 22:00:57 EST References: <7427@eddie.MIT.EDU> <1853@chinet.UUCP> <7439@eddie.MIT.EDU> <34296@sun.uucp> <7460@eddie.MIT.EDU> <4143@watdcsu.waterloo.edu> Reply-To: ooblick@eddie.MIT.EDU (Mikki Barry) Organization: MIT, EE/CS Computer Facilities, Cambridge, MA Lines: 24 In article <4143@watdcsu.waterloo.edu> magore@watdcsu.waterloo.edu (Mike Gore, Institute Computer Research - ICR) writes: [Gee, how many kill files have we gotten ourselves into now? [rhetorical... of course, nobody would put this in their kill file :-)]] > In other words, if there are not yet any cases of someone willfully >libeling someone on, say a crowded elevator, that you imply it's legal ?! :-) >[rhetorical, ... no, it may not be that simple] It would be very difficult to libel someone in a crowded elevator unless one has a means of writing so that others can see it. You are missing the point. The point here is that there are many legal definitions that have to be met before defamation of character cases can be won. It is not as easy as "he called me a sniveling scumdog". One must show whether the poster is a public figure within the confines of this net, simply by posting. If one is a public figure, actual damages must be proven, and you must prove that the name caller acted with actual malice. Stupidity itself is not actual malice. And I doubt if you could get a judge to award you damages for being called a naughty name. You can't legislate "niceness". Mikki Barry