Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!rising From: rising@utzoo.UUCP (Jim Rising) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Phenetics & Cladistics Message-ID: <8892@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Fri, 6-Nov-87 10:33:46 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.8892 Posted: Fri Nov 6 10:33:46 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Nov-87 10:33:46 EST Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 20 I agree that there isn't much in a name. Cain & Harrison (1960) defined phenetic as "...arrangement by overall similarity, based on all available characters without any weighting." Sneath & Sokal (1973) modify this to "...phenetic relationship...[is] similarity (resemblance) based on a set of phenotypic characteristics of the objects or organisms under study." Joel Craycraft likes to call Sibley & Ahlquist's DNA-DNA hybridization work "phenetic" to (I think) needle Sibley (it's Craycraft's idea of the ultimate insult, and taken by Sibley as such). I confess, based on the definitions given above I would not object to calling Sibley's work "phenetic," but without implied criticism. I suspect that cladists often throw out much useful information in what is often a quixotic search for phylogeny. --Jim Rising -- Name: Jim Rising Mail: Dept. Zoology, Univ. Toronto Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5S 1A1 UUCP: {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!rising