Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!umix!umich!mibte!gamma!ulysses!faline!fab From: fab@faline.bellcore.com (Fabrizio Grandoni) Newsgroups: rec.audio,sci.electronics Subject: Re: Audio equipment on 220V/50Hz Message-ID: <1561@faline.bellcore.com> Date: Fri, 20-Nov-87 19:39:40 EST Article-I.D.: faline.1561 Posted: Fri Nov 20 19:39:40 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 23-Nov-87 04:44:31 EST References: <4032@watdcsu.waterloo.edu> 8884@utzoo.UUCP <63KEN@ORION> Lines: 49 Summary: Re: Re: Audio equipment on 220V/50Hz Xref: mnetor rec.audio:4367 sci.electronics:1787 +From ken@orion.bitnet.UUCP Wed Nov 18 06:02:08 1987 +>From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) +>> The 220V is no problem, I can solve that with a reasonably inexpensive +>> 500 VA step-down transformer. However, that'll only get me to 110V/50Hz. +>> Now, this should be no problem for my integrated amp... +> +>Um, beware: the transformer in the power supply is built for 60 Hz, not 50. +>My impression is that it will sort of work but may have problems with heat +>dissipation and inefficiency. Anybody here who knows more about this? + +Using a 60 Hz transformer at 50 Hz will probably be ok, the opposite might +not. Heat generated by the transformer is a function of the 'area' of +the hysterious curve multiplied by the frequency. Therefore the lower ^^^^^^^^^^ +the frequency the lower the heat production. But, just to be sure, +if it gets too hot to leave your hand on (and your not one of these Indian +yogis), its generally not wise to use it. Sorry, it's quite the opposite: a 60 Hz transformer can have serious problems (burning out...) at 50 Hz. While Ken's argument is correct, the strong nonlinearity of the hysteresis [nothing in common with hysterical :-)] gives raise to another effect, which can be dominant: the lower frequency requires proportionally higher peak magnetic flux to cope with the applied voltage; if the transformer was designed to work near saturation @60 Hz (to spare on magnetic material) the need for more flux will drive the magnetic core deeply into saturation. This means that: 1) the area of the hysteresis curve increases; and 2) the magnetizing current rises easily beyond limits allowed by thw wire section. Both effects result in overheating the transformer. But it's good engineering practice to leave adequate safety margin in the design, i.e. not to exploit the magnetic material to the limit of saturation; so normally everything should be OK. Unfortunately the transformer specs (when available) don't help to get the above information; so all you can do is: a) buy a transformer from a trusted manufacturer; b) test it yourself (isn't any place over there where you can find 50 Hz power?). As last note, remember that the same arguments apply, of course, both to the external step-down trasformer and to any transformer used _inside_ the device (ampli, etc.); so, the first time you'll use it @50 Hz, watch the smoke... __ Fabrizio Grandoni _/ /_ ////// IEI-CNR Pisa ////// ////// =======