Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!hplabs!well!ewhac From: ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo L. Schwab) Newsgroups: comp.graphics Subject: Re: CAD 3D for the ST? Message-ID: <4665@well.UUCP> Date: Tue, 8-Dec-87 06:29:03 EST Article-I.D.: well.4665 Posted: Tue Dec 8 06:29:03 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 13-Dec-87 11:15:09 EST References: <1987Dec1.141501.13703@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> <609@aucs.UUCP> <35470@sun.uucp> <1246@vaxb.calgary.UUCP> <626@aucs.UUCP> Reply-To: ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) Distribution: na Organization: Reality Distortion Enterprises Lines: 51 Summary: Don't forget the Amiga, too. In article <626@aucs.UUCP> 870646c@aucs.UUCP (barry comer) writes about CAD-3D on the Atari ST. It should be pointed out that similar software packages exist for the Amiga. Among these are: o VideoScape 3D (Aegis) o Sculpt 3D (Byte by Byte) o Forms in Flight () o Silver (Impulse) o Photon (MicroIllusions [coming Real Soon Now]) Sculpt and Silver are ray tracing packages. VideoScape and FiF use a polygonal shading model. I've only see a short demo of Photon; I have no idea what it is. It should also be pointed out that the Amiga's video (in general) more closely conforms to the NTSC standard. Or, to phrase it more accurately, it's not as far off the NTSC standard as the ST. Also, all of the Amiga's video modes are NTSC compatible, and can be recorded directly onto videotape (though it will look cruddy. If you're serious, you'll have to get a box to clean up the signal). In addition, the Amiga is capable of generating a full video (overscan) image. Because of the greater number of colors the Amiga has to work with, images are noticeably better. This is particularly important to remember if you're using a polygonal shading model and more than, say, three colors. Since Amiga has more color registers, shading of the objects will be smoother. VideoScape in particular performs dithering on the polygons, thus increasing the number of perceived shades. Amiga's HAM mode is also helpful for generating smoothly shaded images. Admittedly, the user interfaces for these software packages is, in my opinion, not as well developed as the interface for CAD-3D. This is being addressed, however, in the form of Modeller 3D (for VideoScape), and InterChange, an object translation program which translates object definition files between VideoScape, Sculpt, Forms in Flight, and even CAD-3D. Similar programs are sure to follow. If you wanted the ideal set-up, you would, of course, buy both systems: the Atari for object creation, the Amiga for rendering. (0.5 :-)) I'm not trying to start a MCIBTYC war. I'm simply pointing out that other systems exist that warrant attention. If I have made inaccurate statements, please point them out to me in my mailbox. Thank you. _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Leo L. Schwab -- The Guy in The Cape ihnp4!ptsfa -\ \_ -_ Recumbent Bikes: dual ---> !{well,unicom}!ewhac O----^o The Only Way To Fly. hplabs / (pronounced "AE-wack") "Work FOR? I don't work FOR anybody! I'm just having fun." -- The Doctor