Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdcad!decwrl!ucbvax!jade!ig!uwmcsd1!marque!gryphon!richard From: richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) Newsgroups: alt.aquaria Subject: Re: Information on filtration needed Summary: Oh really Keywords: filters, ammonia Message-ID: <2642@gryphon.CTS.COM> Date: 19 Dec 87 17:46:59 GMT References: <539@ncrcan.Toronto.NCR.COM> <2598@gryphon.CTS.COM> <369@nrc-ut.UUCP> Reply-To: richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) Distribution: alt Organization: Trailing Edge Technology, Redondo Beach, CA Lines: 37 In article <369@nrc-ut.UUCP> andre@nrc-ut.UUCP (Andre' Hut) writes: >>I think I's stir the gravel up and diatom it to get it as clean as possible >>and THEN do as you propose. But I cannot see any advantage to do what >>you are proposing. > >This is a *good* way to upset the biological function of the undergravel filter. >If you stir it all up and diatom it, then you will see an ammonia cycle! > Good, I'd love to see an ammonia cycle. All I usually get to see is bi-cycles. Seriously, what are you talking about ? What is an "ammonia cycle" ? I usually drain half to a third of the water. Scrape all the algae off (and make spinich lasagna) and by this time the water is pretty stirred up from all the muck. I throw the diatom filter on it, and add new water. At this poiny I stir up the gravel a bit, wait 10 min. for the gravel to clear up, and repeat four or five times. Now, if you are saying that by stirring up the gravel you will see a rise in the ammonia level, something isn't right here. I thought all that ammonia was being converted to nitr*tes, so where is the ammonia coming from ? And besides, if its in the undergravel filter bed, which has water constantly passing over it, wouldnt any ammonia already be in solutiion ? Explain please. -- "Well they say, that Santa Fe, is more, than 90 miles away" {ihnp4!crash, hplabs!hp-sdd!crash}!gryphon!richard || richard@gryphon.CTS.COM