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Path: utzoo!hoptoad!cpsc6a!codas!killer!era
From: era@killer.UUCP (Mark E. Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.women,alt.flame
Subject: Re: Women: yesterday; today; tomorrow
Message-ID: <2543@killer.UUCP>
Date: 23 Dec 87 05:09:57 GMT
References: <14141@oddjob.UChicago.EDU> <2509@killer.UUCP> <14146@oddjob.UChicago.EDU> <2737@elo.rutgers.edu> <2530@killer.UUCP> <14152@oddjob.UChicago.EDU>
Reply-To: era@killer.UUCP (Mark Ethan Smith)
Followup-To: alt.flame
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Organization: The Unix(tm) Connection BBS, Dallas, Tx
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Keywords: Discrimination is real
Summary: Stick with soc.singles or try soc.men, pooh.



In article <14152@oddjob.UChicago.EDU> pooh@oddjob.uchicago.edu.UUCP (obsequious, purple, and clairvoyant) writes:
>In article <2530@killer.UUCP> era@killer.UUCP (Mark Ethan Smith) writes:

>>Thank you Emmi.  It was interesting that the pooh person
>>characterized lawsuits in which employment rights were established
>>for all future women, with no personal benefit to the woman who
>>brought the case, as having accomplished "nothing."

>This is absolutely, totally wrong.  I said nothing of
>the sort.  But nice try.  

Here's the reference:

In article <14146@oddjob.UChicago.EDU> pooh@oddjob.uchicago.edu.UUCP (obsequious, purple, and clairvoyant) writes:
>In article <2509@killer.UUCP> era@killer.UUCP (Mark Ethan Smith) writes:
>>The most
>>frequent result of a "successful" case is that a company that has
>>refused to hire women or treat women equally, signs a consent decree,
>>without admitting guilt, and promises to hire andor promote women
>>in the future.  Often the woman who brought the case spends a fortune,
>>undergoes enormous stress, and the only result is that the company
>>institutes an affirmative action plan that will benefit future
>>women employees, not the one who brought the case.  

>Here you go, like a broken record.  Nothing can ever be done,
>it's hopeless, life is terrible.  

Do you remember writing that, pooh, or was somebody using your password?


In article <14144@oddjob.UChicago.EDU> pooh@oddjob.uchicago.edu.UUCP (obsequious, purple, and clairvoyant) writes:

>It is immensely unfair to the men....

Pardon me, but aren't you in the wrong group?  ;-)



--Mark