Xref: utzoo alt.flame:1218 misc.legal:3178 soc.men:2312 soc.women:8711 soc.motss:3288 Path: utzoo!hoptoad!dasys1!msmith From: msmith@dasys1.UUCP (Mark E. Smith) Newsgroups: alt.flame,misc.legal,soc.men,soc.women,soc.motss Subject: Re: Flamage re Mark Ethan Smith/Netiquette Message-ID: <2487@dasys1.UUCP> Date: 8 Jan 88 14:18:03 GMT References: <229*manis@instr.camosun.bcc.cdn> <6466@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: msmith@dasys1.UUCP (Mark Ethan Smith) Followup-To: alt.flame Organization: The Big Electric Cat Lines: 32 In article <6466@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> era@killer.UUCP I wrote: >Hire the disadvantaged, harass them intolerably, and then >either they quit, or they complain and you can fire them. If they >try to talk back, you can accuse them of attacking people or >being disruptive, although why it is okay for others but not for >them is not something the court will ever discuss. I saw an excellent example of this on the Donahue show today, not that we don't see it in soc.women constantly. One of the guests was a black man who had been beaten at Howard Beach. Donahue asked him what happened and he said, "A white guy in a car said, 'F*** off, ni***rs,' so I said, 'F*** you, honky.'" A few minutes later a white man in the audience said, "Well, if you hadn't responded, there wouldn't have been a problem." The *problem* to racists, sexists and other asorted bigots, is when subhumans talk back to their superiors, get uppity , don't stay in their place or show proper respect. Denigrating human beings isn't a "problem," the "problem" only occurs when the people being denigrated don't quietly submit to it, ignore it, swallow it, lower their eyes and run away, pretend it never happened, etc. There is only a "problem" if the subhumans talk back to the ubermenchen as if they also had free speech and human rights. Then you have to teach them differently, to eliminate the "problem." --Mark -- Mark Ethan Smith {allegra,philabs,cmcl2}!phri\ Big Electric Cat Public Unix {bellcore,cmcl2}!cucard!dasys1!msmith New York, NY, USA {philabs}!tg/