Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!umd5!ames!amdahl!esf00 From: esf00@amdahl.amdahl.com (Elliott S. Frank) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Wirth's challenge (was Re: RISC Message-ID: <19825@amdahl.amdahl.com> Date: 18 Dec 87 17:30:06 GMT References: <6901@apple.UUCP> <28200075@ccvaxa> <12181@orchid.waterloo.edu> Reply-To: esf00@amdahl.amdahl.com (Elliott S. Frank) Organization: The Beige Building Full of Bright Engineers, Inc. Lines: 23 In article <12181@orchid.waterloo.edu> atbowler@orchid.waterloo.edu (Alan T. Bowler [SDG]) writes: > > Once you get over >the fixation that your problem is so different that the hardware >designer has to tailor an instruction just for you, you realize >that what you want is something that does some basic functions >fast, and let the programmer construct the other stuff. The >design problem is to choose the right basic operations. > Amen. The Amdahl 580 (a 370-compatible [CISC] machine designed ca. 1978-79) was designed with contemporary 'UNIX machine' features -- separate I and D caches, etc. It turned out it ran 360/370 COBOL programs like the proverbial 'bat out of hell'. -- Elliott Frank ...!{hplabs,ames,sun}!amdahl!esf00 (408) 746-6384 or ....!{bnrmtv,drivax,hoptoad}!amdahl!esf00 [the above opinions are strictly mine, if anyone's.] [the above signature may or may not be repeated, depending upon some inscrutable property of the mailer-of-the-week.]