Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!rochester!udel!gatech!dcc1!emcard!polycatt!philabs!masscomp!spook!hank From: hank@spook.UUCP (Hank Cohen) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Wirth's challenge (was Re: RISC Message-ID: <130@spook.UUCP> Date: 4 Jan 88 16:12:19 GMT References: <6901@apple.UUCP> <28200075@ccvaxa> <12181@orchid.waterloo.edu> <19825@amdahl.amdahl.com> Reply-To: hank@masscomp.UUCP (Hank Cohen) Organization: MASSCOMP -- Bethesda Md. Lines: 17 In article <19825@amdahl.amdahl.com> esf00@amdahl.amdahl.com (Elliott S. Frank) writes: > >The Amdahl 580 (a 370-compatible [CISC] machine designed ca. 1978-79) >was designed with contemporary 'UNIX machine' features -- separate >I and D caches, etc. It turned out it ran 360/370 COBOL programs like >the proverbial 'bat out of hell'. >-- I always found the most interesting feature of the Amdahl 580 to be the single cycle decimal adder in the ALU. It was (when I last knew the details of such things) <24nS. I believe that the CPU designers were willing to use a lot of gates to achieve that speed. Amdahl does a lot of simulation and analysis of their instruction mix and is willing to design the machine to optimize certain benchmarks. When you run a lot of COBOL and PL/I a fast decimal adder makes sense. Perhaps Elliot could tell us how fast the 5890 decimal adder is.